Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Hysterectomy and Female Castration: the Enablers Part II

Gundersen Lutheran Medical Center, La Crosse, Wisconsin

*** ANNOUNCEMENT ***

Part I of this series was posted on January 1, 2008. Regarding the information below, HERS acknowledges that on or before February 6, 2008 UPMC deactivated the link to the “Hysterectomy” and “Preparing for a Hysterectomy” sections of their Patient Education Materials, thereby eliminating contradictions with the “Hysterectomy” section of their Procedures materials, which remains active.


This is the second in a series of Posts to highlight omissions of fact and misinformation about hysterectomy currently being provided to women on hospital, doctor, and medical school websites. In Part I of this series we demonstrated that the degree of accuracy of the information that women receive about hysterectomy from the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center (UPMC) depends in part on how women search their website. To read Part I (and the 176 comments from women around the country) click here.

Part II of this series highlights the Gundersen Lutheran Medical Center’s seriously deficient patient education product known as X-Plain. As you will see, much of the information provided by X-Plain isn’t supported by anatomical fact or what women experience after hysterectomy.

The reason that we’ve selected Gundersen and UPMC as the first hospital websites to be investigated isn’t because they’re the only hospitals providing misinformation. They were chosen because they’re both typical of patient education information published on hospital websites throughout the country.

Point your web browser to http://gundluth.org/. Click on “Health Information,” then “Interactive Patient Education.” Next, scroll down to “Hysterectomy.” Note that the first screen that you come to defines this tutorial as a “lesson.” Click on “Run Module” and follow the instructions.

The next screen that you come to under the Gundersen Lutheran Medical Center banner says, “Welcome to X-Plain,” which is defined as, “A series of health education programs published by the Patient Education Institute—the leading provider of interactive computer based health education!” According to the Patient Education Institute’s website, this lesson in health education is becoming the “standard of care” in the medical industry. The Patient Education Institute claims that this information will help hospitals like Gundersen to:

• “manage malpractice risk”
• “document patient education and informed consent,” which can be linked “to the patient ID”
• “saves staff 15 minutes per patient”
• and, “if needed, this completion data can be saved to your EMR” (electronic medical record) and used in “legal proceedings” to “counter any claims”

After the welcome page you’re then told, “For questions or problems with this module, please contact Gundersen Lutheran at 608-775-5441 or 1-800-362-9567, Extension 55441.”

Proceeding through the lesson, in the section titled “Anatomy,” the tutorial tells patients, “Menopause occurs when the ovaries quit producing hormones and releasing eggs.” However, this information incorrect. The ovaries continue to produce hormones after menopause. In fact, they continue to produce hormones all of a woman’s life.

Later we’re told that the cervix “opens in the vagina, which in turn opens to the outside…” This is confusing information to say the least. In fact, the uterus is continuous with the cervix, which is continuous with the vagina, and the cervix is the part of the uterus that is at the top of the vagina. The cervix is the opening to the uterus. The phrase “which in turn opens to the outside” makes no sense.

In the section titled “Treatment Options” patients are told that “fibroid tumors may shrink after menopause without the presence of estrogen.” While it is true that fibroids typically shrink at menopause, the rest of Gundersen’s statement is untrue because the ovaries continue to produce hormones—including estrogens—all of a woman’s life.

As it is with both UPMC and Gundersen, one of the most consistent potentially damaging omissions on the websites of America’s hospitals is the failure to inform the public that the uterus is a sex organ. And one of the most consistent false statements made on hospital websites is that sex will be the same or better after hysterectomy. If hospitals and doctors did inform women that the uterus is a sex organ, then women would immediately know that removing the uterus results in sexual loss. So when Gundersen claims that “your health” is their “passion” but then says in this patient education lesson that “hysterectomy does not affect sexual sensations,” what are we to conclude? This statement is false. It’s untrue.

The removal of sex organs certainly affects uterine orgasm, because uterine orgasm isn’t possible without a uterus. Furthermore, Gundersen claims, “Sexual activity can be resumed within weeks and can be as pleasurable as it was before the operation.” What they don’t mention is that the vagina is shortened during hysterectomy, it is made into a closed pocket, and it is sutured shut at the top when the uterus is removed. Most women don’t consider a shortened vagina, scar tissue at the top of the vagina, a loss of vaginal elasticity, loss of uterine orgasm, and diminished or lost physical sensation in the vagina and external genitalia to result in a sexual experience that is as pleasurable after the surgery as it was before the operation.

The reason that this information must be provided to women is that the functions of the female sex organs aren’t visible the way that the functions of the male sex organs are visible. In other words, the functions of the female organs aren’t self-evident the way that the functions of the male organs are self-evident. In telling women information about the uterus that is unsupported by anatomical fact, not only is Gundersen not informing women of the information that they need in order to make an informed decision, women are potentially misinformed. Gundersen has supplied a patient education lesson that omits the very information that women need to decide what they and will not allow to be done to their bodies.

In the section titled “Procedure” Gundersen goes on to tell patients, “The aim of the surgery is to take the uterus out. Sometimes the surgeon may decide to also take one or both ovaries out along with the fallopian tubes.” The message here is that clearly the doctor’s “aim” may also be to remove the female gonads as well. And if you acknowledge that you have completed the X-Plain tutorial, then in a court of law it can be demonstrated that you were informed that the surgeon may also castrate you without further discussion.

Gundersen fails to use clearly understood and informative language. The medically correct word for removal of the ovaries (the female gonads) is castration. The National Institutes of Health reports that about 75% of hysterectomized women are castrated at the time of the surgery, although the incidence of cancer in the ovaries and the testicles is nearly identical, at only .01% of the population. Gundersen then reinforces the fact that the doctor may decide to remove your ovaries when they say, “After the pelvis is entered, the uterus is taken out. The surgeon may also decide to take out the ovaries and fallopian tubes.” In other words, let the reader beware—you have now been informed. Without any further discussion, the surgeon (not you) “may also decide” to castrate you, and if you acknowledge watching this tutorial then you have consented to castration even if the doctor, nurse, and anesthesiologist verbally tell you that they won’t.

In the section titled “Risks and Complications” patients are told, “This procedure is very safe. There are however, several possible risks and complications. These are very unlikely, but possible. You need to know about them just in case they happen.” Again, these are strange and potentially damaging statements. While we always appreciate simple language that is easily understood, much of X-Plain’s language is vague, imprecise, and not supported by anatomical fact. It either doesn’t mean what it says, or it doesn’t say what it means. According to S. S. Meltomaa et al in their study “Incidence, risk factors and outcome of infection in a 1-year hysterectomy cohort: a prospective follow-up study,” which has been widely published since 2000 in the Journal of Hospital Infection and in the Journal of the American Association of Gynecologic Laparoscopists to name a few, “Infection is a common complication of abdominal and vaginal hysterectomy and may lead to prolonged hospital stay.” In the study, 19.2% of hysterectomy patients (one out of five) developed hospital-acquired infections.

One of the things that makes this hysterectomy “lesson” so potentially damaging is the fact that women who take part in it are periodically required to answer true/false or yes/no questions. If you don’t answer right away, a voice insists, “Please answer the question.” In order for you to proceed through the tutorial, you must provide the required answer, or the software program won’t advance the screen forward to the next section. If you answer incorrectly, you’ll be asked the question again and again until you get it “right.” This would all be well and good if their answers were correct and supported by anatomical fact…but some are not.

For example, X-Plain asks patients to answer the question, “Are heart attacks and other anesthesia related complications common during and after this operation?” The correct response to this question would be “yes,” because hysterectomized women have a three times greater incidence of myocardial infarction than non-hysterectomized women, and if their ovaries are also removed women have a seven times greater incidence of myocardial infarction. And precise estimates of anesthesia complications are difficult to come by, but about 1/10 women experience minor complications like bruising and headache; about 1/1,000 experience much more severe complications like lung infection or damage to the teeth, lips, or tongue; and about 1/10,000 will experience very severe complications ranging from impaired vision to death. But in order for patients to proceed through the tutorial they must give the “no” answer to this question. After patients answer the question falsely, that false answer is then reinforced by a pop-up dialogue box that repeats the false information. In a court of law, the fact that you have proceeded through the tutorial means that you must’ve answered their question as required, which could be construed as agreement. Documentation of your responses could then become the hospital’s protection to “counter any claims” that you might bring against them.

Next Gundersen asks patients, “Are infections very common after surgery?” As we have demonstrated and medical literature has made quite clear, the correct answer is “yes.” Infections are indeed common after surgery. But again, the patient must answer “no” in order to continue, thereby requiring women to agree with a false statement.

After repeatedly requiring patients to either end the tutorial or answer some of their confusing questions wrongly, Gundersen continues with more information that is unsupported by anatomical fact. They say, “Rarely, structures in the pelvis and abdomen can be injured during the surgery… It is very rare for the tubes connecting the kidneys to the bladder as well as the bladder itself to be injured.” Again, this is untrue. In a report presented at the American Urogynecologic Society / Society of Gynecologic Surgeons Joint Scientific Meeting, Barak Vakili, MD said, “The overall incidence of intraoperative injury is 5.1%, with the risk increased when patients undergo concomitant surgery for prolapse or incontinence.” With damage to the urinary tract occurring in more than one out of every 20 women undergoing hysterectomy, it’s not a rare occurrence. In fact it’s quite common. It occurs more than 31,000 times each year during hysterectomies performed in this country. In a more recent study published in the October 27, 2007 issue of The Lancet, Dr. Daniel Altman et al said that hysterectomized women “had a more than doubled risk increase for subsequent stress-urinary-incontinence surgery.”

Gundersen then goes on to say, “In extremely rare situations, the intestines and the blood vessels could also be affected, necessitating another operation.” Information that is supposed to inform women about the consequences of a major operation should be very clear, but this statement is too unclear to understand what it is that they’re trying to say. Are they referring to the blood vessels of the intestines? If so, then yes, it would be very damaging to lose blood supply to the intestines, which is rare. But if they’re referring to the rich blood supply attached to the uterus, those blood vessels are always permanently damaged during hysterectomy because the blood supply to the uterus that radiates throughout the pelvis must be severed to remove the uterus. Severing this vascular supply affects the flow of blood to distant organs and limbs, including the intestines. If X-Plain is discussing the vessels of the intestines, then the fact that they neglect to discuss the vessels of the uterus (the organ that is removed during hysterectomy, which is the topic of this lesson) is a blatant omission.

“Similarly,” Gundersen claims, “in extremely rare situations, small nerves in the pelvis may be injured resulting in decreased sensation in the sexual organs. Rarely, this can lead to sexual dysfunction.” What sex organs are they referring to? The ones that were removed? This is potentially a very damaging statement because, in fact, all of the nerves that attach to the uterus must be severed to remove it. Those nerves radiate throughout the pelvis, and supply enervation (feeling) to the nipples, clitoris, vagina, and elsewhere. But they obviously no longer serve that function after they’ve been severed to remove the uterus. What Gundersen refers to as “extremely rare” actually occurs in every hysterectomy. The uterus can’t be removed without severing those nerves, and they can’t be reattached. Furthermore, uterine orgasm can’t occur without a uterus. So, in fact, some or all of a woman’s sexual function is permanently lost, resulting in “sexual dysfunction” in every hysterectomized woman.

And now Gundersen’s patients are apparently ready for another quiz: True or false? “After a hysterectomy sexual pleasure is decreased.” Clearly, the correct answer is “true.” But once again, in order to proceed women must provide the false, incorrect answer that is unsupported by anatomical fact. And when patients provide the false answer, Gundersen reinforces that false statement by telling patients, “Correct. Women whose conditions caused pain during sexual intercourse, report a more enjoyable intercourse.” As we have said, most women don’t consider shortening the vagina, a loss of vaginal elasticity, loss of uterine orgasm, and diminished or lost physical sensation in the vagina and external genitalia to result in a sexual experience that is as pleasurable after the surgery as it was before the operation.

Later, women are asked another true/false question. “One of the side effects of a hysterectomy is weight gain.” True or false? The fact is, women who contact the HERS Foundation report that although their diet and exercise remain the same, on average they experience weight gain of 25 pounds or more in the first year after surgery. But Gundersen patients are required once again to answer this question falsely if they want to continue with the lesson.

In the section “After the Surgery” patients are told, “You can resume your sexual activities within six weeks. This operation will not change your sexual lifestyle or sensations.” Let’s be very clear here: The only way that the removal of sex organs won’t change your sexual lifestyle or sensations is if you never experienced them to begin with. In fact, it will always change your sexual lifestyle and sensations, because it will eliminate the possibility of uterine orgasm and some or all of your sexual feeling forever.

Gundersen’s hysterectomy lesson continues by saying, “Most likely, the operation will free you from the chronic pain caused by the uterine problem.” Once again, Gundersen and the makers of X-Plain appear to be unfamiliar with medical research and anatomical fact. Thomas Stovall, MD et al said in the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology, “Despite preoperative history and physical findings suggesting and histologic findings confirming uterine disease, nearly a quarter of the patients have persistent pelvic pain after hysterectomy for chronic pelvic pain. These findings should have a significant impact on the therapeutic choices recommended by gynecologists and may alter the informed consent that patients give in such cases.” Based on what women report to HERS, chronic pain is much more common after hysterectomy than even this report suggests.

In conclusion, Gundersen tells patients, “Hysterectomy is a very safe and successful operation. It can be a positive solution for many serious conditions affecting female reproductive organs and causing pain and bleeding.” And with that, Gundersen completes its tutorial on hysterectomy without addressing the well-documented consequences of this life-altering surgery. In fact, Gundersen might have mentioned, hysterectomy is widely considered to be the most over-utilized and medically unwarranted surgery in America. It is rarely used to treat actual medical problems that have no conservative treatment options, and the vast majority of hysterectomies are recommended and performed for benign conditions.

The mortality rate for hysterectomy is approximately nineteen out of every ten thousand women. In the last decade there were an average of 621,000 hysterectomies performed each year in this country, so about 3.25 women continue to die every day of every year in hysterectomy operating rooms or in the immediate post-operative period…almost 1,200 women each year. But the damage caused by removing the uterus and severing the nerves, blood supply, and ligaments that attach to it occurs in all women who undergo hysterectomy.

Hysterectomy represents more than $17B/year in revenue to America’s hospitals. Its aftermath is well-documented and available on the HERS Foundation website. Be your own judge, but what does “relatively safe” mean? It isn’t ever “relatively safe” for the woman whose body is cut into and whose sex organs are removed.

As a patient education tool, it would be far more informative and precise for Gundersen to say that hysterectomy is a dangerous operation that causes serious, permanent anatomical and physiological destruction and life altering changes. The surgery itself causes permanent pain, permanent sexual loss, and a host of medical problems that women who remain intact don’t experience.

Let the reader beware. Before you make any decision about female surgery watch the 12-minute video “Female Anatomy: the Functions of the Female Organs” at www.hersfoundation.org/anatomy.

Email HERS at hersfdn@earthlink.net if you know of a doctor, medical school, or hospital website that you think should be highlighted on this blog. If you would like to talk with women about the consequences of hysterectomy, HERS provides a network of women who will talk with you about their experiences.

If you have undergone a hysterectomy at Gundersen or their affiliated hospitals after relying on information from X-Plain, contact HERS at hersfdn@earthlink.net.

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At February 19, 2008 at 10:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gundersen Clinic featured on this blog site does in fact do a record number of hysterectomies and castrations. One out of two women in the LaCrosse, Wisconsin area has been castrated.

Being castrated myself, I can look at a woman and tell if she was castrated by her eyes and her walk. It is terrible how a doctor can take a vibrant woman and turn her into a unhealthy and sick woman. She will most likely be unable to work full time again or even worse, loose her job and become unemployed. She will most likely loose her husband. She will loose her life as it was before her surgery. HOW MUCH WORSE CAN IT GET!

I would challenge any doctor from Gundersen Clinic to write on here and answer these questions that all the women are having. These doctors should be able to because they seem to know so much about being hysterectomized or castrated. They will tell you nothing will change after the surgery, so come on here and tell us why everything changes after this damaging and life altering surgery.

 
At February 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for this website that you have developed. I have felt so angry and alone. My doctor only gave me two options 1. treatment with hormone (I'm allergic), 2.hysterectomy. I had my surgery January 2007 and now I walk with a limp from severe nerve damage and in constant pain everyday. The surgeon kept telling me that I was the very first person to experience any problems from this procedure and she had no clue on how to help me. So THANK YOU AGAIN.

 
At February 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hysterectomy/castration is the most horrific insane thing one human being could do to another. I used to always be afraid of dying. Now I'm just waiting since I feel like I'm already half dead.

 
At February 20, 2008 at 6:52 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yup Jan, we are always the first person to complain once castrated. You know this isn't true. We have 200 pages of women complaining. A doctor is suppose to know how to treat you after the surgery. When you have a hip replacement, a back, arm, leg or head surgery, do you go back to the surgeon who did the surgery and have him say you are the first one who has complained after surgery and there isn't anything I can do for your pain so go somewhere else because I don't want you for a patient anymore. This is what we hear when we go back to our doctor who just took our sexual organs that we so much need all our life for our well-being.

All they care about is getting your money, then kicking you out their door to go from doctor to doctor trying to find out why you are feeling so terrible, only to find out there isn't any doctor who can help you. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU CAN DO TO IMPROVE YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

Why do OB/GYN's hate women so much? They wouldn't do this to men.

 
At February 20, 2008 at 9:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE HAVE LET MEN RUN OUR LIVES AND THE COUNTRY TOO LONG! THEY HAVE MADE A MESS OF EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW IT IS A MAN'S WORLD AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN TREATED LIKE AN ANIMAL WHO IS CASTRATED.

 
At February 20, 2008 at 9:15 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason why every one of us victims who have posted to this blog has the right to be OUTRAGED is because we were NOT TOLD BY OUR DOCTORS of the devastating after-effects we should expect after these sex-organ surgeries! We were not told before the surgery or even after the surgery.

THAT IS THE SOURCE OF OUR OUTRAGE!

These doctors know that the delicate nature of this surgery and what it does to our lives is not something we would normally choose to make public. As long as we continue to buy into THIS LIE, and keep this all hidden, we will remain their victims. We need to expose these unsavory, despicable medical ‘industry’ LIARS!

In my opinion, the best way we can spend the rest of our limping lives is to educate others about this SHAMEFUL PRACTICE IN THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY.

Distribute the HERS Foundation Petition and copies of the various information sheets and literature from HERS Foundation as widely as possible. Ask HERS to send you copies of their literature via e-mail attachments etc. so you can print this at home and distribute.

We can leave these Petitions etc. in public restrooms, both the men and women areas. Men should be willing to do this because men need to be as informed as women about this OUTRAGEOUS, INHUMANE MUTILATION OF WOMEN.

Men, have Mothers, Wives, Daughters, Sisters, Aunts, Girlfriends etc. who, if not already affected by these surgeries, these women stand a one-in-three chance of being MUTILATED BY THIS SURGERY before they reach the age of 60, according to US statistics. The men themselves will fall victim to this madness as the women in their lives continue to be MUTILATED at a one-in-three rate!!!

The distribution of this HERS Foundation literature will help men to better understand what is happening in the lives of the women they love. Most of all, men will be able to help prevent this MUTILATION from continuing by being informed themselves and educating others.

I think we should hand-to-hand deliver or just leave this written literature in Colleges, Doctors offices, restrooms, or to voters in line at Polling Stations on election days, and anywhere else where we can reach others.

Handing a Petition directly to someone who is already a voter will speed up the signature gathering process.

EDUCATION is our best revenge!

 
At February 20, 2008 at 3:30 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mattie said...

ENDING THE FALSE INFORMATION USED BY GYNECOLOGISTS TO DECEIVE, ATTACK AND DE-SEX ONE THIRD OF THE FEMALE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, FOR PROFIT, LEGALLY, IS:

"A NATIONAL EMERGENCY"

IMAGINE 22 MILLION WOMEN STANDING IN THE DESERT AND SCREAMING ALL AT ONCE, WHEN THEY REALIZED THEY HAD BEEN TRICKED AND LIED TO. THAT THE REALITY OF WHAT HAD BEEN DONE TO THEM WAS SEXUAL ORGAN AMPUTATION, MUTILATION AND ENTIRE BODY HORMONE HAVOC, THAT WAS UNNECESSARY, WITH NO CURE AVAILABLE.

HOPEFULLY THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL SEE THIS AS THE,
"NATIONAL EMERGENCY"
IT IS.

IMAGINE AGAIN IF ONE THIRD OF THE FEMALE POPULATION CAME DOWN WITH AN INCURABLE DISEASE, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A,

"NATIONAL EMERGENCY".

I BELIEVE HYSTERECTOMY BY DECEIT, FOR PROFIT FITS THE BILL, THIS HAS GONE FAR BEYOND THE LIMITS OF INHUMANITY, ALREADY.
A LAW MUST BE PASSED TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY FROM EVEN ONE MORE FEMALE HUMAN SACRIFICE, FOR PROFIT AND POWER BY,

"THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY"
OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

 
At February 20, 2008 at 8:30 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's been three years since my total hystorectomy. Now I seem to have no sex drive, could care less if I have any intimacy at all with my husband of 30 years. We were very happy before surgery. I need help in dealing with the side effects of this surgery. Depression big time (on medication), edema, sore joints & mucles, no desire to socialize, no sexual desire, not much joy in life. If there’s any help out there, I'm not opposed to driving. I live in Huntsville Alabama.

Unfortunately none of these side effects were mentioned. I should have done a lot more research. You always think it can't happen to you. Thanks.

 
At February 20, 2008 at 9:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had a hysterectomy in January, 2002 at the recommendation of my doctor. I was having exploratory surgery for a gastrointestinal problem. The surgeon noticed that my uterus was enlarged and told me that it needs to be removed due to its size. It was the size of a 16 weeks pregnancy. Having never been pregnant, I cannot imagine how large that was. The doctor convinced me that it was very big. However, from the beginning, I had reservations and questions, but still went along with those whom I felt were the authorities. I was told the lie that it was an insurance against ovarian and cervical cancers. I went to three doctors, who all said the same thing, that I would not experience any difference in my body functions. I only see now that I made a very big mistake! I have been thrown into an instant change of life. I have hot flashes, night sweats, cannot sleep, posture is bad, (cannot stand straight) , skin is dried and wrinkle, have no sexual appetite. My bladder is awfully weak, my joints hurt a lot and I feel bloated all the time. Sex used to be an enjoyable experience, now it is a chore that I hate. Granted I am 55 years old, and have a right to enjoy life as much as I can. When I went to those geniuses, they told me to take the hormones (premarin) for a while to see if that would make me feel better. I am mad that I have to take Premarian -- yes, the one that may cause breast cancer as well as a stroke and/or heart attack! Before having the surgery, I talked to a lot of women about their hysterectomies, and they (all of them) told me that I would feel no difference. Are women afraid to admit the truth -- or I wonder if they know the truth. If there is no difference then why are they taking hormones? I am very alarmed and disgusted. Is there something that I can do to feel like a woman again? Can you please help me. Thanks for listening.

 
At February 20, 2008 at 10:11 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had a hysterectomy from ovarian cancer, 55 yrs old and am on natural hormomes taking a chance of more cancer and still don't have much sex drive and moist but not very lubricated. I don't feel much of a sex drive anymore. I've been on natural hormones through a compounding pharmacy back east. Is there anything that can give me back the sex drive I had. Its very sad. That used to mean so much to me.

There is no more cancer found but they when in twice to test lymph glands and say I am free of cancer but I sure don't feel myself. I also get tired real easy and I'm used to being very active. I feel like I'm being punished for liking sex too much. Thanks for this web site.

 
At February 21, 2008 at 10:10 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd heard that there were hysterectemys done without necessity. I had a hysterectemy when I was 18, I am 36 now. Thank God I did have one daughter, but I did want more children. I went into the ER at at night because I had pain and had surgery the next morning. I was told that my uterous had grown the size of a football * they had to do emergency surgery. I did have insurance, but it was so long ago I don't remember the facts. I don’t know the doctors name even. But I do not remember who the surgeon was just how he looks. I would like to know if I was ONE who did NOT have to have the surgery, because I feel that part of me was destroyed because I did want more children. Maybe you can help me?

 
At February 22, 2008 at 11:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would just like to know more information about Hysterectomy's.

Im 21 now but I was 19 when I had my Hysterectomy and I am still trying to come to terms with everything that is changing in my body. I would jut like some information please, if you can help me understand what is going on in my body. I'm lost.

 
At February 23, 2008 at 4:50 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm 32 and had a hysterectomy a year ago. I'm still having hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, anger and irritible. Is this normal and how long will it last? Sometimes I feel like I'm going crazy and dont like even being around myself...you know what I mean?

 
At February 23, 2008 at 5:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had a hysterectomy in June.of 2006, I have since then had nothing but problems and alot of pain.I changed doctors within nine weeks of surgery because I felt that she had done something wrong and couldn't admit it. A new doctor has sent me for several tests trying to find out what is going on with me. Once I stopped bleeding from the surgery I had a discharge with alot of stomach cramps and pain.I have more pain now than I did before.I have multiple cysts on the one overy I have left,they were found three weeks after surgery and my new Dr. says they should have been seen during surgey. I know they are causeing alot of my pain but not all.While I was haveing an ultrasound they found out that my right kidney is inlarged and that there may have been something done during surgery to cause a blockage.I now have to have several more tests to find out what it is.

I am still not back to work because of all the pain and discomfort. I can not have intercourse without alot of pain and bleeding so therefor I don't and this upsets my husband as well as my self. I waited until the Dr's said it was ok before doing it so I don't know what is going on with that either. No one can give me answers for any of these things. Did some one mess up or am I going crazy? Iam 30 years old and had the surgery because I would have two periods a month.The only other choice I had was birth control and I can't take them. I have since found out that I had other choices that my Dr. didn't tell me about! What do I do??? Please help me

 
At February 23, 2008 at 7:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all you very young women who have been put through this my heart goes out to you. Really there is not a lot I can do except emphasise. Get regular exercise, take vitamins especially C & D. Lower the intake of Vit D during the summer months (i.e. for six months) as we can self manufacture this with sunlight.

To the last poster. You are being given the run around. Next time you see a doctor tell them this. Speak calmly and with authority. If you have had kidney problems then it could be that one of the ureters were damaged. Get them to check this. Secondly they need to check the top of the vagina and confirm that the suture closure has not been compromised. This is not your fault. Sometimes a fistula can occur. It is repairable. You may want to ask if they can check for this. These are just suggestions and you may have already ruled them out. I hope you find a doctor with a good heart that can give you some answers and solve your problems. Good luck.

 
At February 23, 2008 at 9:48 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

i had a complete hysterectomy and a bladder tact in 1994 , now i feel use less to my self i;m divorced i do not date , i live alone no energy no sex drive, over weight, on depression pills every day living alone, is this what i should feel like at 51 years old, i’m so gladiI found this web site can you please please help me

 
At February 24, 2008 at 12:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is hard to beleive these thingd I HAD A HYSTERCTOMY 2 YEARS AGO AND I FEEL AMAZIND

 
At February 24, 2008 at 12:21 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is hard to beleive these thingd I HAD A HYSTERCTOMY 2 YEARS AGO AND I FEEL AMAZIND

 
At February 24, 2008 at 1:13 AM , Blogger HERS Foundation said...

Anonymous,

I truly hope you are okay. I have some observations about your post that I think are worth considering.

You posted your comment twice. Short term memory problems are a common consequence of hysterectomy.

You misspelled or made a typo in the last word. It's the word meant to convey how fantastic you feel since you were hysterectomized two years ago.

You ended your comment with all caps. All caps are usually used to convey shouting, anger, or irrititation. They are common feelings and appropriate responses in women whose female organs have been removed.

It's something to think about, particularly if you have ever told another woman that you have not experienced any adverse effects from your surgery. I'm sure that you would not want to put another woman in harms way.

 
At February 24, 2008 at 3:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are four (4) misspelled words in the Anonymous post all in one sentence: "beleive", "thingd", "HYSTERCTOMY" and "AMAZIND". I can relate to the same inability to concentrate. I used to have a very sharp mind and great memory, but now it's hard to form a thought, or think of words and how to spell them.

 
At February 24, 2008 at 8:15 AM , Blogger Gracie said...

This is what is so sad for all of us. We are left on our own to figure this out. Once the surgery is done, our doctors kick us out their doors because they know they are going to hear one problem after another and they don't want to deal with it. This is the only surgery that I know of where we are not taken care of properly after the surgery.

We are all told it is in our heads and I think you now know it isn't. We are all told there won't be any changes after the surgery and you now know this isn't true. Our doctors are well aware what this damaging and life altering surgery does to our bodies and lives.

I searched for two years on my own trying to find answers when I found the Hers Foundation in a McCall's Magazine and finally I was told the truth. What you are beginning to find out is not very pleasant to hear or read. Non of us wants to hear this is our life now. You must do whatever it takes to get some kind of order in your life. It will never be the same kind of life as before and this is what is so sad.

I know my life will never be what it was before my surgery, but I can help other women by getting a law passed that would require every doctor to give every woman the DVD 'Female Anatomy' who are precribed a hysterectomy and castration. We must not let this happen to other women. Wouldn't you agree that if we were given this DVD to watch and knew the affects this surgery would have on our bodies, we wouldn't have had the surgery?

The Hers Foundation needs our help and another way you could help is by sending a donation (whatever the amount) to them so they can keep fighting for us. If everyone who has written on here would just send a small donation, it would help out alot. Without the Hers Foundation, we would be on our own again!

AND, keep naming your doctors so other women don't go to them. AGAIN, mine was Dr. Jerome Gundersen of Gundersen Clinic in LaCrosse, Wisconsin. If you haven't watch their movie about having a hysterectomy, you should. After watching it, you would easily be talked into this surgery like I was.

 
At February 24, 2008 at 8:40 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it hard to believe that a person who is feeling amazing after a hysterectomy would take the time to seek out and read a site that details the long term consequences and effects of hysterectomy. And then not even give us any detail as to why she had her hysterectomy and why she feels so much better.
I also find it hard to believe that having an organ removed can make a person feel amazing. People have kidneys, lungs, tonsils, other organs removed for cancerous conditions but you don't hear them bragging about how wonderful they feel, except that their lives have been prolonged. Why the need to revere a hysterectomy? There are always other more conservative and just as effective options to deal with benign reproductive problems...always...

 
At February 24, 2008 at 2:08 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mattie said...
I started thinking about what legal crime in American history was worse than removing the sexual organs from women by deceit, resulting in the amputation of the sexual organs of, one-third of the female population by the year 2008.

I researched, Colonial Black Slavery. It was the only thing I could think of that may be close to the numbers we are talking about and the cruelty.
Here are the statistics of the numbers of black slaves freed in America by 1865 according to the 1860 American census. American history: *(approximately 4 Million slaves were freed by July of 1865, by the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment on December
18, 1865.)

Then I thought well what about the Holocaust in Germany. *Every arm of Germany's bureaucracy was involved in the logistics of the mass murder, turning the country into what one Holocaust scholar has called "a genocidal state". Taking into account all of the victims of Nazi persecution, the death toll rises considerably:
*(estimates generally place the total number of victims at 9 to 11 million.)
*Information from Wikepedia.

The above statistics in world history conclude irrefutably that the systematic sex organ removal of one-third of the American female population (22 Million women) by the year 2008, by deceit, legally, is among the cruelest historical facts recorded in world history.

The laws must be changed to end this cruel torture of one-third of the female population in America in the year 2008.
Sign the HERS Foundation petition to end un-consented, un-warranted, sex organ removal, by legal deceit for profit by the gynecological society in America.
This has gone far beyond the limits of inhumanity, already.

 
At February 24, 2008 at 6:37 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mattie said...
OB/GYN doctors and surgeons, bank on and count on women being too embarrassed, too shy, or silent to protect their self-image, after their sex organ is amputated. Let's face it, who wants to admit their sex organ was cut off?.

This silent shame has worked for the OB/GYN's. Many women do not want to admit the damage, it is embarrassing. A women no longer has a uterine orgasm after hysterectomy-sex organ removal.

By the looks on the three nurses faces who came into the hopital room to witness me, the day after the butchering, and how I felt afterwards, I was already starting to realize something terrible had happened, but tried to stay possitive and trust what the doctor had said.
Three nurses who were not even assigned to me, came in my room to see me the day after the butchering. They must have heard how my legs were flying all over the place, and what the doctors did to stop the severe shock I was in the day before. The nurses seemed to want to talk to me, they wanted to know why I had the surgery. After I relayed to them what the doctor had said about my condition, one of the nurses said, why did you have this surgery done here?, they were visably upset. Too late for this one, I guess they must have thought.
By four a.m the next morning I was weak and calling into the nurse call box saying "HELP", "HELP", and nothing not one person came to help me. I felt like I was outside of myself, shakey, could not sleep, and was in torturous pain. A nurse at seven a.m then came into my room, took one look at me and said "I am giving you a shot". I had never had trouble sleeping before this, but sleeping pills I was told were not written on my chart. I guess that may explain why no nurses came to my room while I begged into the call box, maybe they took my sleeping pills or did not want to be bothered. Maybe there were no nurses in the middle of the night?

What human being wants to admit that their sex organ was cut off? After they realize, it was? I can say that I don't want to admit it, I don't want any of this to be real, but it is.

 
At February 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Recently I exchanged emails with someone about the issue of making anaologies of other hideous and tragic abuses to hysterectomy and female castration. I rarely use analogies, except when they illustrate that many hideous abuses have been stopped. None of them were given up voluntarily, they were taken away from the prevailing power that benefited from keeping the status quo. One of the reasons I’m not entirely comfortable with analogies is that there is nothing that truly is the same. Many women refer to feeling like they were raped by the doctor that hysterectomized them and the system that allowed it, the enablers. Although, because of my own experience I understand how they feel, the fact of the matter is a victim of rape is still whole and intact, and the physical violation they suffered is something most women and men learn to put into the far back of their psyche so that they can live with what was done to them.

Hysterectomized and castrated women cannot deep six it in the back of their subconscious mind because every cell of their being has been changed, every part of their anatomy affected, and their lives irreparably damaged. The rape victim is no less violated and traumatized, but they are whole and with some help they are usually able to go on with their lives, still the person they were before, though violated, scarred, and wary.

An analogy with the holocaust is often made as well. Although I am not religious my heritage and family is Jewish and I feel an identity with the culture and some of the tradition. I had family who died in concentration camps in Germany and Austria, and some who escaped. My mother-in-law was a survivor. Her spirit was permanently scarred, and like most survivors she preferred not to talk about it because she could live in the present if she didn’t allow herself to think about the horror of the past. My father’s family fled the Czar in Russia. Interested and curious about their lives, from time to time I gingerly asked what their life had been like in Russia, but they refused to talk about it. My aunt said, “Some things are better left in the past, they’re just bad memories that would give me nightmares if I thought about them.” She, too, found it possible to live in the present if she kept the past out of her conscious thoughts.

Hysterectomized and castrated women cannot be whole for even a second. They cannot go back to their past, and they are not “present” in a current life. They cannot feel what they felt when they were whole, their bodies and minds cannot feel what they did when they were intact. The part of them that made it possible is no longer there.

In a way I think that these analogies are a disservice to all. It is not a rape, it is not a holocaust, what’s being done to women every minute of every day in the United States and elsewhere in the world is a premeditated, calculated, controlled, legal assault on women. The assailant is not lurking in the shadows. She is alone and isolated with her victim in an examining and consulting room, then on stage under the spot light of the surgical theatre, with a supporting cast of accomplices who participate in and silently witness the destruction of women’s bodies and lives – the enablers.

The perpetrators are not “them”. They are “us”, our mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, daughters, sons, and friends.

We’re talking about abuse on a scale unlike the 25,000 lobotomized people, or six million systematically tortured and executed prisoners who had a network of underground support. We’re talking about 621,000 women every year, 22 million living women in the USA, to say nothing of the hundreds of thousands of women this was done to in previous generations who are no longer alive. Every hideous abuse of human beings is tragic, one not more or less than the other, regardless of the numbers involved.

Hysterectomy and female castration will not be given up voluntarily, it will have to be taken away from those who benefit from keeping the status quo. Everyone who cares about this outrageous abuse of women can be part of the solution. Show your support by signing the petition and volunteering to help HERS change the law. Contact HERS by email at hersfdn@earthlink.net or by phone at 610.667.7757 to find out what you can do to help HERS change the law in your state.

As Margaret Mead said, "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world: indeed, it's the only thing that ever does."

 
At February 25, 2008 at 12:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had a full hysterectomy done 2 years ago when I was only 25 years old. The left ovarie was left because the dr. told me I needed hormones. I was never given any alternatives instead of the hysterectomy or side affects I would experience after the surgery. Since having it done, I've been going through an emotional rollercoaster. I have alot of mood swings, vaginal dryness, decreased sexual desires, but more than anything are the mood swings that have affected me the most. I need something to control them, I am not taking hormones, because my dr told me I don't need them. If you could tell me what to do I would appreciate it. Thank You.

 
At February 25, 2008 at 4:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

It has been almost a year and a half since I was hysterectomized and castrated. Every day my memory seems to get worse. My brain is in such a fog. I can't concentrate, I can't remember words. I do something and then forget it a couple minutes later. Every task is now very difficult. Things I used to do without much thought now seem insurmountable. It really scares me when I think of all the things I need to do. I just can't seem to get up enough brain power to get anything done. I was always very organized, but now I have piles of stuff laying everywhere. I can't seem to get them straightened out. I always think I'll do it tomorrow when I feel better, but tomorrow never comes. I don't know how I am going to function the rest of my life when I can't accomplish even the most simple tasks. It is horrible what they've done to us. I see that Gundersen Lutheran Medical Center is still advertising about how great this barbaric surgery is, and forcing women to agree that it doesn't affect sex. That is such a despicable lie. How can they keep that information up there and sleep at night? My heart goes out to all the women who have posted honestly on this blog. The sad truth is that there is no cure after you have been butchered by these doctors. There is no way to get your health back. I have been going to a naturopath and I take a cocktail of supplements everyday. It has helped with the severe fatigue and cut down on the severe hot flashes, but nothing has changed my memory loss, foggy thinking, inability to concentrate, lack of sexual response, etc. There is nothing on this earth to fix the damage that has been done. It's even more tragic for teenage women and those in their 20's and 30's. We live in an insane society where doctors are allowed to lie and butcher women for profit. These doctors have no interest in a woman's health. The insurance companies are in it with the doctors. They take money from the people and give it to doctors to butcher women. Doctors would not be able to perform unnecessary surgeries if the insurance companies didn't pay them and reward them. What a sick system.

 
At February 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

With regard to analogies, I cannot help but feel I'm like one of those women who have been victims of female genital mutilation. Some of these women were spared the cutting by the perpetrator just sewing up the labia major, but still they bear scars.

As a 'civilised' society we abhor these acts. Yet we live in so called democratic systems that actively encourages the mutilation of the female internal sex organs. There is even a big fat profit to be made from it.

Halstead introduced the radical mastectomy. It took 80 years to abandon it, some doctors having to endure the tag of killers because they dared to modify this highly mutilating surgery.

It's about time gynecologists stopped this free for all butchering and modify surgical techniques to ensure minimal damage. It's not beyond the wit of humankind.

Sally

 
At February 25, 2008 at 1:20 PM , Blogger HERS Foundation said...

Sally,

The breast and nerve sparing lumpectomy as opposed to mastectomy is less damaging to the breast and surrounding nerves and blood supply. There are doctors who say they perform nerve sparing hysterectomy and claim that it is therefore not damaging. I disagree.

In a so-called nerve sparing hyseterectomy surgeons do not sever some of the peripheral nerves, but they do sever every nerve that is attached to the uterus, as well as all of the ligaments and blood supply that are attached to the uterus. The uterus is removed and the vagina is sutured shut at the top, making it shorter and with less elasticity.

Sparing some of the peripheral nerves and severing the hypogastric plexus of nerves that branches out to the uterus and external genitalia, and severing all of the attachments to the uterus, as well as removing a hormone responsive reproductive sex organ from women is damaging. Hysterectomy and castration performed on women who have not been informed of the functions of their female organs and the consequences of having them removed is a barbaric practice that must be stopped.

 
At February 25, 2008 at 10:11 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all you ladies out there. I did spell and posted twice just to prove a point I am doing amazing after two years. I knew that would get all your attention.

You all honestly sound like you are in a cult and are all saying the same things. I find all your comments very hard to believe. I know plenty of women that also say it is the best thing they have ever done.

Castration what the hell or words like butcher please. All this talk about gaining weight I lost 20 pounds and sex is great.

Mind over matter laides you make your life what it is...

 
At February 25, 2008 at 10:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way you can all think anything you want about me. I was actually on here because a freind of mine showed me this site. You are all brain washed.
My spelling has sucked since greade school it actually got better in the last couple of years...my spelling does not mean I am stupid though.

 
At February 26, 2008 at 5:16 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nora, I think you misunderstood. I'm not advocating for nerve sparing hysterectomy but rather other surgical techniques such as myomectomy and endometrial ablation. Hysterectomy should only be done as a life saving operation, with informed consent.

To the anonymous person. Great. Now go proselytise on the Happy Hysterectomy forums. Why would you be so callous in your approach to women, some very young, who are suffering from the devastating effects of this surgery? I urge you to tread softly over peoples feelings.

Sally.

 
At February 26, 2008 at 8:17 AM , Blogger Gracie said...

To the lady above who wrote; We are in a cult. She don't believe removing our ovaries is called castration. She has a great sex life. We want to feel bad. We are all brain washed.

I find your comments insulting to all of us who are suffering and will suffer the rest of our lives. I am so happy that you are feeling great and your sex life is great. Why don't you ask your husband if sex is the same because it isn't for him if they took your cervix. I am glad you got this off your chest by putting us down calling us cult followers.

Our nerves were severed running to our brain that controls our well being and emotions. Our sexual organs-uterus, ovaries and cervix, were cut out. Alot more takes place when we are castrated but you wouldn't understand the medical terms if you don't believe removing the ovaries is called castration. Castration is the medical term and is in medical books as removal of male gonads and female ovaries. There is no way sex is better after being castrated, so these words of yours are false.

The doctors who castrate us made our life what it is. We did not have a choice. We were not told that they were going to remove our sexual organs or what the after effects were. Women from all over the world are posting on here, so how could all of us be brain washed. We are writing to help each other because we are told by our doctors we are the first one who feel the way we do.

Do you really think we want to feel this way? If we could get our life back the way it was before this surgery, we would. My life has not been very pleasant for 20 years. I am sick every day and I was an active and vibrant woman before my castration.

I find your words disgusting because there are a lot of women writing on here that are disabled, unable to work, lost their family life, sick every day and do not have a sex life anywhere. You really need to apologize to these women including myself. Why are you writing on here? Are you a doctor's wife?

 
At February 26, 2008 at 8:37 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also find the ladies words disgusting because I have not had the surgery but went to a Hers Conference with a relative. What I found out was not very pleasant especially when they are castrating very young girls. Girls that wanted families or are unable to care for their young children. I didn't know alot about my female organs but found out at the conference from a doctor speaking.

You have to ask yourself why are doctors doing this if not for the money because most of these women had only a small fibroid or a small cyst. That can be removed by having a myomectomy or polypectomy thus saving the female sexual organs.

This lady needs to go to a conference and see for herself what this surgery is doing to women, their husband and family. This surgery takes an affect on the whole family because most of the women are unable to go back to work full time and they have lost most of the sexual feelings or are totaly disabled.

This lady needs to go online and watch the DVD 'Female Anatomy' and look at the chart of the nerves running through the body and when they cut the ovaries, uterus and cervix out these nerves are tied in bundles going no where. These nerves are needed, not cut.

I am glad I have my sexual hormone producing organs and there isn't anyway I am going to let doctors cut them out. It is terrible what doctors are getting by with!

This lady doesn't sound well to me at all by her saying these women are in a cult. I know they are not. Where did she come up with this? It sounds like a doctor talking. How could her sex life be great when they removed her sex organs, HELLO! Most women don't want to admit they were castrated for fear of losing their husbands. Get educated and informed before you speak untrue words.

 
At February 26, 2008 at 9:12 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all i just got my uteris removed everything else is intact. Maybe thats why my sex life is great.

If you have the right to bash hysterctomies I have the right to say good about it. Maybe I went the wrong route and I appoligize for some comments made to you women but I honestley find it hard to belive.

I started off saying my experience was good and lot of women bashed me for it, which was wrong. Saying I was lying and making me feel stupid about my spelling. Thats were my anger came in there is alot of sucsses stories. Maybe its different when you get everything removed given but I only had my uteris removed thank god.

 
At February 26, 2008 at 10:09 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anonymous about only having your uterus removed. I did not give the doctor permission to remove any of my organs. On the contrary, I told him to save them all and do only what was absolutely necessary. All I needed was an ovarian cyst removed, but he took it upon himself to amputate my healthy uterus, cervix, fallopian tubes and ovaries in Oct. 2006. I never had a menstrual problem in my life. I had light uneventful periods that were pretty much painless. I did not consent to have my organs removed, but I woke up that way. It's very shocking! This has been done to millions of women. Women are being lied to and deceived and wake up castrated and hysterectomized. It's ruined my ability to have an orgasm. I didn't ask for this. I sure do not want to be here posting. I want my life back the way it was. I have had all kinds of horrible side effects from a surgery I never wanted or consented to. I am not part of a cult, I am a real person who has been lied to, deceived and butchered by a doctor for profit.

 
At February 26, 2008 at 10:54 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mattie said...
To anonymous above....who, only, had her sex organ removed,

So, why? don't you think a law should be passed to inform women of the female anatomy before sex organ surgery?
Is it because you are embarrassed because your sex organ was amputated?
Is it because your vagina was sewn into a closed pocket at the top of your cervical stump, which no longer functions as a sexual organ?
This is exactly the shame and embarrassment I was talking about in my former post, above.
Sorry your sex organ was amputated!

 
At February 26, 2008 at 10:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anonymous who feels great

Your attitude is not that of a person who is feeling so great. Sorry.

It has been 35 years since my ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, cervix were all removed just because of one ovarian cyst. This was done to me at age 24, childless and unmarried. I still remain unmarried at age 60.

It is disgusting to me that anyone would defend this barbaric practice, particularly when it is such a huge money maker for the physicians and their enablers in a civilized country/society.

I am not brainwashed or part of a cult.

I had been brainwashed by all the doctors who tried to convince me that they 'never heard that complaint after sex organ surgery before'. They kept telling me it is all in my head etc. They kept saying I was fine. I knew I did not feel well and tried to believe them. None of them helped me, or could help me.

Now I know the truth.

Thanks to the HERS Foundation I now understand the physical, psychological and life changing after-effects this surgery has on females, and especially young females.

My heart goes out to all the victims who have posted here and especially to the teenagers who are having this done to them by the medical 'industry'. I know what lies ahead for them and I weep for them.

Where is your compassion since you are feeling so great?

 
At February 26, 2008 at 11:51 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

There seems to be a myth that just having your uterus removed is no big deal. You might want to google the following medical studies done proving otherwise:

"Hysterectomy Linked to Higher Levels of Inflammatory Markers Than Natural Menopause: Presented at NAMS" (read on about the higher risk of heart disease whether ovaries were preserved or not)

"Risk of Cardiovascular Disease by Hysterectomy Status, With and Without Oophorectomy"

"Hysterectomy May Boost Incontinence Risk
When done to treat benign conditions, procedure more than doubled the odds, study found"

"Hysterectomized Women With Ovarian Conservation Report More Severe Climacteric Complaints Than Do Normal Climacteric Women of Similar Age."


These are just a few studies regarding damaging effects of hysterectomy without removal of ovaries.

Personally I suffered damage to my vagina during vaginal removal of my uterus 2 1/2 years ago and am now undergoing pelvic floor physical therapy for it. It is certainly not something I asked for and definitely not a mind over matter issue...

 
At February 26, 2008 at 8:29 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

male in mich.
I just read a recent post from an anonymous poster that says she feels great from her hysterectomy
2 years ago. Ladies do not attack her for posting. It's possible she is in the lower 25 percentile of those who have a more favorable short term result. Time will take its toll and she will begin to realize what the medical establishment did to her. My wife still denies any bad results from her hysterectomy nearly 6 years ago. But what about me(her husband of 35 years). It destroyed our sex life!! It took a couple of years but sex went bye bye completely. It would kill her if I told her that her vagina has no sensation. She has complete loss of intimate desire, weight gain, no energy, all the classic symtoms. She has been in menopause since her operation..non stop. Mood swings, hot flashes and during these times I just clear the house and let her cool down. Someone better not say to me that it's all in my head. No intimacy, no sex these are precursers to failed marriages. I have tried to explain to her that the damage they did will continue to affect her more and more. She still denies it. So I cope the best I can and try to support her. I will stand by my support of no hysterectomy unless it is life threatening. A man would feel the same way about his testicles.

 
At February 26, 2008 at 11:43 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

From TQ:

"premeditated, calculated, controlled, legal assault on women"

HERS has provided us with the evidence of the sobering words above. A practice so seductive in its benefits to the medical community that both men and women are incapable of showing restraint.

Women posting have shown, neither age, benign condition, symptoms, lack of children, state of reproductive health, nor out and out refusal - prevents hysterectomy.

HERS has shown us evidence of collusion among several industries and medical specialties resulting in gains while the victims suffer with incomprehensible loss.

There's no debate when such a practice can flourish unchecked. The only action should be one of courage to end such a practice and one of love to protect women currently harmed.

 
At February 27, 2008 at 12:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

i was wandering about my past hysterectomy. why i have loss of sexual pleasure. i don't worry about pregnancy but don't have orgasms like i use to. maybe they did something to me like cut nerves or something. i'm not lubricated like i use to be. can you tell me what to do.see a specialist or recommend something. i really need some help. thanks you.

 
At February 27, 2008 at 8:19 AM , Blogger Jane Marie said...

I find it very difficult to write my full story of distress due to an un-necessary LAVH. One day I hope to get my full story out. For now I wish to share it through my poetry. Thank you.

Misplaced

One year ago a surgery took place.
A partial hysterectomy required
A tough decision to make.
Little did I know life would drastically change.

Filled with chaos after that day.
Consumed by depression.
Deeper than ever before,
personality altered, a stranger came forth.

My life erased as I knew it before.
On that operating table stolen from me, my sense of logic, love, my well being.

I struggle each day to find my way
Back to the woman
That was misplaced that day.

April 14, 2005

Legally Copyrighted to Jane Marie Overturf 2007
(No part of this poem may used or reproduced without written permission)

 
At February 27, 2008 at 8:24 AM , Blogger Jane Marie said...

Tangling with Death

An abyss lurking far from heaven’s gates ready for the arrival of an empty soul. A soul once filled with affection taken away
One April day

A life once full with undying love, gone astray never to be regained. Only a ghost of my true self remains in the shadows.
Deep interior of emotion taken away
One April day

Lines sketched a souvenir of an almost final demise stares back at tear filled eyes questioning why I am still alive. Life no longer makes any sense taken away
One April day

Feeling I should have died in April that day life as I knew it permanently taken away..
Forever, tarnished, scarred I tangle with thoughts of death every day since
One April day

Legally Copyrighted to Jane Marie Overturf 2007
(No part of this poem may used or reproduced without written permission)

 
At February 27, 2008 at 5:32 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Male in Michigan. We weren't attacking her for posting but for what she said. She said we are in a cult and all saying the same thing. She found our comments hard to believe and she stated that we make our life what it is. This is what is disgusting.

We welcome all comments, but we don't need to hear these comments when we are all feeling so ill. We are just trying to make it through each day the best we can.

I am glad she feels great. Sooner or later her ovaries will stop working because of the uterus being cut out. We will then see her comments on her and we can help her come to terms with how she will be feeling.

 
At February 29, 2008 at 9:54 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was given an unwarranted hysterectomy by:
May Grant Associates: Bradford William C DO, Lancaster PA.

 
At February 29, 2008 at 10:09 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 49 yrs.old and 2 years ago, I had a complete hysterctomy because my gynecologist told me I had "6 fibroids the size of eggs."

I lost my desire in sex and if I do, my husband cannot penetrate me
because it is so painful. I am so embarrass to ask my family doctor how I can be seen by another gynecologist to be checked. I don't even know how to begin the questions. All I know is this: After my surgery, my clitoris shrunk, it is so sensitive, and once in a while i have this sensation that feels like electrical surge. It is so painful having intercourse.

Has anyone heard of this? I don’t know what to do. Thank you very much for any information you can give me.

 
At March 1, 2008 at 8:15 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am at my wits end here. I have no one person in my life that can understand the hell I have been through since my LAVH in April 2005at the age of 45. My uterus was taken from me for Dsmenorrha/Menorrhagia which means from what I understand heavy bleeding/cramps clotting.
NO REASON for a partial hysterectomy.

I was suffering from severe PMS and cramps, clots and abnormally heavy periods. I was given the choice of an LAVH. I put it off twice before I made the decision that I should have never made to begin with. I was told I would be fine and live with the freedom of no more heavy periods. I was offered hormone therapy but smoked. So I couldn’t go on estrogen. It says in my medical records I tried progesterone. I don’t remember taking it at all.

From the time I healed from that surgery my life went into a full tail spin to say the least. I was a tornado. I couldn’t keep my feet planted in one place on the ground. I kept going in circles round and round from Wisconsin back to Chicago. I lost all my true emotion, love for my family, my maternal instinct without any conscious at all. I became very unstable. My personality totally altered. I became a total stranger to myself and others. I can never regain the woman I once was. It is permanently taken away!

I also suffer from other physical ailments but it is my mentality that is at stake here.

My daughter was 8 at the time. Now she is 11 and I cannot get close to her no matter what for I hurt her so badly by coming and going, coming and going. A guilt I will forever suffer with.

My ex husband to be says it’s just going to take time. He doesn’t understand the full hell I have been going through and brings it up from time to time. All I do is live with guilt that I can’t let go of for no one seems to let me forget. It feels as if I am continually slapped in the face. By my own self and others. The little family I have has read the information on the Hers site and still cannot understand.

The only reason I am even here is because he took a 26 ft fall off a job site. Another story. Not his fault that he fell but self employed. Right now my home is in foreclosure. My mother is going to be starting breast cancer treatments soon. I can’t commit to another job for I need to be back in Chicago to care for my mom. It is only me. And no time for me to heal mentally or come to terms with all I have endured since my uterus was pulled from me. NO time for me to finally realize I was a victim and it’s not my fault. I have lost all…….. All…….and feel I am losing more of myself as time goes on.

I almost died twice over this unnecessary hysterectomy. By my own hand. There is no one therapist who understands! I am in a deep depression and feel like I am never going to find happiness in my life again. I either sleep to much or cannot sleep at all.

The saddest part is my daughter… that I will never have back. And we were very, very close. I don’t care about my marriage. It's my daughter that is slowly killing me inside..the loss of her true love for me.

Is anyone else having or have had similar problems? Sorry this is all over the place but at the moment I am very upset once again…very much so. I hope one day to be able to write my personal story in a much more professional manner if I survive this so called life…. I wish I would have died instead of living in this dark hole.

My gynecologist was Lori Wendricks, Madison, WI….

There it is out there!!!

 
At March 1, 2008 at 10:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 31 years old, and as recently had a total hysterectomy. I found so many things on here that I thought I was imagining, but seems others have the same things going on. I am amazed. I wish I had seen this before. Thank you, at least I know I’m not going crazy.

 
At March 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a 30 y/o mother of 4 who went to a new OBGYN a year ago with PMS complaints and she did an U/S and said I had endometreosis, firbroid tumor and clusters of cysts on both ovaries and said I needed a total hysterectomy and would feel 100% better. My husband went in with me the next day concerned that this removal of my hormones would be a serious mistake since I already suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, anxiety and sever depression.

She just laughed and said I would be so much better if we removed the hormones...2 days later I had a TAH...1 week later I was admitted to pysch ward for threats of suicide and feelings of inaduqucy as a mother and made a comment that my children would be better off in heaven...since then, I suffer from NO sex drive, PAIN after sex, the worse depression ever, irritability, vaginal pain, kidney stones, can not climb up and down stairs(knee and ankle pain), vaginal discharge with odor and itching and have lost my career due to lack of being able to get out of bed....this TAH has RUIEND my life and now am in the process of getting permanent disability.

Is there someone that can help me? I did get hospital records and everything was NORMAL!!!! AND the post op path report was negative for any endometreosis or fibroid or ANYTHING....all tests pre and post say "unremarkable" so now I realize I had this all done for NOTHING and to turn the rest of my life into a living hell. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me...someone....anyone!!!!!!!!!!

 
At March 1, 2008 at 11:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amy I know exacly how you feel! I had a completer hytorectemy 1 yr. ago and i feel like i am loosing my mind. severe depression, fatigue, coping problems, weight gain, so many problems. unable to cope. i have been on esrtrogen 0.625 only. I am thinking taking natural hormone replacement therapy as prescribed by an internal medicine doctor. I have been told recently that i have borderline osteoporosis in my hip. I have been put on antidepressants for depression two weeks ago. Can i take natural hormone replacement with these other meds without problems. Anything you can tell me that might help? The doctors wanted to put into the hospital because i became suicidal but i am fighting with all that i have to get all of the problems under control. I decided to take the antidepressant which I feel helped some. But I still don't feel right. Please help me!!!! desperate!!!

 
At March 2, 2008 at 10:57 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Ladies,

It is so good, that here in this blog women are so courageous, frank and honest. In other forums, very often women are rporting that they are so well after their hysterectomies - they say: everything is super- and some sentences later, they ask: "Since my surgery I am so depressed - have night sweats and mood swings.. Is there anybody else with these experiences?"
But first of all they say: "I am Well"- I fear taht they are telling this to their doctors too...

Why so many women don't speak out frankly.
In Germany (I am writing from Austria) are now also chatrooms where hysterectomized women are talking together- but if you are reading the post: the majority encourages women to undergo the surgery- and they hardly say that they have indeed severe health and psychological problems afterwards!
It's awful! Why don't they tell the truth - DO they want that other women have to make the same experiences without being informed before? I fear- that a lot of women are reacting like this!
It's a shame!

rosa

 
At March 3, 2008 at 12:42 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 34 years old and I am a mess. I just had a partial hysterectomy. I just had that surgery done this past September.

What a releif to know that what I feel is very real and not all in my head. I am unable to work because I am very limited now, physically and emotionally. Thank God I found you!. I can tell you that I have many problems you talk about here and on the website and am in a lot of pain. It feels as though I am not healing propperly not to mention all the other physical (back pain, joint pain/starting arthritis, headaches, nausia) and emotional. Lately taking care of myself is a full-time job! This morning when I tried desperately to find answers my boyfriend suggested I tell you what I’m experiencing. Smart man. What a hudge releif and comforting to know that I am definately NOT loosing my mind.

I have been feeling so ill, that I finally went to the emergency at the hospital. I was treated like a nutcase. These so called professionals made me feel as tho I was wasting their precious time. I am still petrified because I am falling apart, fear that maybe something might be very wrong with me, I can't find the help I need so I would very much appreciate any information or advice that you people have to offer.

 
At March 3, 2008 at 12:50 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a few hours away from a unilateral oophorectomy (removal of a single ovary)- deemed necessary because they found a cyst on the ovary. The cyst may be caused by my contraceptive-releasing Mirena coil, I have just found out. I have had no information abt possible side effects of oophorectomy.

After reading Hers material and a series of other articles, my decision is that I will not have this procedure. I will go in as planned, but just ask them to remove the Mirena coil. Then I'll continue to research the issue. If the risk of ovarian cancer is a factor, perhaps they can put me on a screening programme.

When will they curb their propensity to cut bits out of women's bodies?

This is medioeval stuff, really. I am so angry.

 
At March 3, 2008 at 11:06 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I'm glad you canceled the oophorectomy, (the nice name for castration). I hope that your doctor does only what you request. I only needed an ovarian cyst removed, and my doctor took it upon himself to amputate all my healthy organs. He did it without my consent and against my will without any medical justification. Be very careful with these doctors, they are liars and criminals and take advantage of women once they get them under anesthesia. Call the HERS Foundation. They can help you and give you referrals. Let us know how you're doing!

 
At March 3, 2008 at 10:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will I had known about this site before I had mine. So many problems.

 
At March 3, 2008 at 10:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was trying to find out if there are any drugs FDA approved to help women regain their sex drive. I had a hyst. 2 years ago and was never informed of the possible adverse effects. My sex life is ruined and I can't live like this anymore. I need serious help. Please help me.

 
At March 4, 2008 at 6:50 AM , Blogger Gracie said...

Dear Desideria, Your doctor has heard a lot of complaints so her telling you that you are the first one to complain is a lie. She is hoping you just go away so she doesn't have to deal with you. She probably cut a nerve or two and now you will have to life like this for the rest of your life. Some women end up in wheel chairs after their surgery because of nerve damage.

They take your hormonal sexual organs, then kick you out their door for you to deal with all the after effects of this surgery on your own.

I believe the sign in the clinic read 'your health is our top priority', RIGHT! Their top priority is to make as much money as they can. Not only is your gynecologist making money, but most likely you will end up in every department in the clinic trying to find answers as to why you feel so terrible.

STOP going to an Ob/gyn for your checkups because they are trained to do hysterectomies and castrations.

Please have your family and friend go online and sign the petition to pass a law prohibiting doctors doing this damaging surgery without handing out the DVD 'Female Anatomy' to every women who is approached to give up their sexual organs.

Every women who has written on here and even the thousands who haven't will never again have the life they had before this surgery. AND FOR WHAT, IF NOT FOR THE MONEY. SHAME ON EVERY DOCTOR WHO HAS CUT OUT OUR SEXUAL ORGANS FOR PROFIT! How can anyone be in a career that destroys millions of women's lives? We have to struggle and try to get through each day the best we can.

I wake up thinking today there will be hundreds of women who will be on the operating table whose CARING doctors will remove their very important organs. Organs that we need for our well-being. Organs that we need to make us feel healthy, sexy, happy and vibrant!

 
At March 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous of March 3, 2008 12:42am

I had the removal of my ovaries and uterus also, many years ago, and in a nutshell you will feel the way you have described in your blog, for the rest of your life. Your doctor(s) just forgot to tell you what to expect after the surgery.

The sudden loss of the hormone producing organs from your body throws your body into instant shock. It affects your cognitive functions and your physical strength, and your body is struggling to stay alive after this amputation of essential body parts. Your personality has changed due to the body functions that have changed. You will develop new habits, something akin to compulsive behavior as you develop ways of coping with your new life on a daily basis.

The doctors then lie to you, your family, and to the world at large and say they don’t know what is wrong with you (post surgery). This will add to your misery.

No one is going to believe you and not believe your doctor. After all, didn't your doctor spend about 6 or 8 years obtaining their ‘degree’ at a University? Doesn't this make them more intelligent and knowlegeable about the surgery's after-effects than you? NO!

It is this cloak of fraternity with their medical colleagues that does not allow them to tell you they know the surgery is the cause, they just don’t know how to fix the after-effects and they really don’t care.

They forget that you have lived with your body for all these years, and you know your body better than they do. It is logical that every woman is different and therefore the exact feelings she experiences after this surgery may differ slightly and to varying degrees.

I am a strong believer in Acupuncture as it is one of the ingredients in the wide area of Traditional Chinese Medicine healing modalities. It is very gentle and helps the body to balance in every way. That is what the body is trying to do after these surgeries, balance itself.

Acupuncture has helped me a lot.

Taking additional supplements which the body can no longer produce or use efficiently because of the loss of the huge number and variety of naturally produced hormones in the body, has also helped me a little. Nothing makes me feel ‘normal’ or anywhere near to how I felt before my surgery. I am a totally different person today than I was before my surgery.

 
At March 6, 2008 at 10:26 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

i've had a complete hysterectomy symtoms where pain. turns out i had fiborid tumors. anyway i have no interest in sex anymore. my husband think's i have some one else ha ha . my spelling is awful but i hope i got the point across. i wish i had never had the surgery. fooled by a money hungry doctor who i had doctor with for yrs. don’t have a hysterectomy you won’t ever be the same again.

 
At March 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I Have been diganosed last year with 6 intramural fibroids, the 2 biggest ones were 4 cm the rest were 2 cm. My doctor told me I needed a Hysterectomy even though I do not have any symptoms except pain during intercourse.....I never went for a checkup again one year now I freaked out from what he told me even though everyone told me that my fibroids weren't that big for 41 years old. I was diganosed with my first fibroids 11 years ago and did not had much troubles since then except of the pain that started 5 years ago but remained stable did not increase...so what is the next step I should do now?

 
At March 9, 2008 at 12:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

SABINA FROM INDIA ASKS,

I am 43 years old. Felt fortunate to have come across your site. I was detected with fibroids at the age of 38 years when the size of the biggest fibroid was 5.5 cm x 6.5 cm and 2 small fibroids. The then doctor advised surgery but I thought I'd wait and watch. Over a period of 5 years , the biggest one has grown to 8.0 cm x 7.5 cms (12 wk pegnency size). During this period have tried all sorts of options -- Birth Control Pills, Homeopathy, Allopathy ... All these years I have had heavy bleeding for 2 days and my period lasted for 6-7 days. The cycle was regular. Since October'07 the cycle has gone erratic and periods last from anything between 10-15 days. In October '07 my periods stopped after 16 days after the Doctor gave me 'Trapic MF' to stop the bleeding. The only 'Treatment Option' I got from her was 'Hysterectomy'(She knew I had a Medical Insurance). She also asked me to take a course of 'Clingen Plus' just in case there was an infection. December, January, Februay --- my periods lasted from 7 to 10 days. This month (March), today is the 13th day and it is still on .. accompanied with pelvic pressure thought the bleeding was not heavy for the first time in 6 years. Today I have started with 'Trapic MF' again. Lets see how it goes ... I'm confused what to do .. should I go ahead with Hysterectomy ... are my fibroids too big or is it common to have such symptoms at this age? But after reading comments from my other friends, I am skeptical about surgical procedures.
Please Help !!!

Thanks & best regards

Sabina

 
At March 10, 2008 at 8:09 AM , Blogger Gracie said...

Sabina, I also had a fibroid and was easily talked into this damaging and life altering surgery because I believed everything Dr. Gundersen told me. I gave up a few symptoms for dozens of other symptoms. We are lied to by the person we trusted.

Believe what these ladies on this blog are saying because we are the experts. Do you really want your life to turn out like ours?

Once you have your surgery, your doctor will not want anything to do with you because you will have so many problems they don't want to deal with you, so they will send you to other doctors. You will spend years going from one doctor to another to find answers as to why you are feeling so terrible. All the doctors in the clinic make money off you.

Find a doctor who does myomectomies, just removing the fibroids and leaving your sexual organs intact, or just don't do anything. Your fibroids will most likely shrink after menopause and you will be able to go on with your life, unless the rest of us who will have to suffer everyday for the rest of our lives.

I would definitely find another doctor and fast if your doctor only mentioned a hysterectomy and not a myomectomy because the doctor is not skilled to do one. Call the Hers Foundation to see if they can find you a doctor in your area.

Please do not have a hysterectomy and a castration (removal of your ovaries) just for fibroids. Good Luck Sabina!

 
At March 11, 2008 at 5:12 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

RUN don't WALK when your doctor only mentions a hysterectomy and casstration which are removal of your sex organs; the ovaries, uterus and cervix! They are not skilled or trained to perform other alternative surgeries. Call the Hers Foundation to find a doctor in your area who will do alternative surgeries and will not cut out your sex organs.

 
At March 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a hysterectomy scheduled and am very reluctant. I am 43 and have had endometriosis for years, and it has gotten worse. I have only one ovary due to ovarian cancer running in my family, and a cyst that was suspicious. I have been told by 3 Drs. (all in different practices) that it is highly recommended. I have another ovarian cyst, a very large fibroid cyst, and an enlarged uterus. My uterus is so large is indents my bladder causing blood in my urine and pain. The Endometrosis and Adenomyosis has been surgically treated several times and it only comes back worse. If I have this hysterectomy it will be a total one, ovaries anad uterus will be removed. Currently, pain is so bad, I've had to give up running, and sex with my husband. I can't imagine the hysterectomy being worse than this. Not all hysterectomies are unnecessary, although I do worry about the side effects and the hormone therapy. I've talked to several women that have had hysterectomies and have had little side effects, all of these women went through extensive counseling before and after the procedure. It is scary, but my life now is painful and horrible without it.

I posted this in another post as well. I came to this site to get answers, real answers. I think some of your information seems to be fact based, others just seems like angry people bitching. Does counseling help? I am about to go through this surgery and I wanted to get facts, not feelings. Is this site truely meant to help women or bash doctors? You seem to bash anyone who has had success with their surgeries, and scare the hell out of people maybe unneccessarily. I'm sorry for your pain, but it is very selfish of you to not be sensitive to others who may have to go through this, cancer or other life threatening illnesses. If you truely want to help, be caring, appear less extremist and stop bashing with words like butchering, cut up... those fear tactics aren't allowing you to be taken seriously. This site has not helped me at all, and I was hoping you of all who had gone through this, could walk another women through a decision with care, not extremism and bashing.

 
At March 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM , Blogger Gracie said...

I would like to respond to the woman above who is trying to decide whether to have her sexual hormone producing organs removed.

No matter how many gynecologist you go to, female or male, they will all tell you the same thing because they are trained to do only surgery.

You mentioned a cyst and a large fibroid, all of which can be removed by a myomectomy, but you have to find a skilled doctor to perform this surgery. Most don't want to take the time to do it or they will tell you the fibroids will grow back.

I gave up running, my career and my life because of the surgery. If you have talked to women who just had the surgery they might have little side effects, but down the road the side effects will start taking place. Don't always believe what you hear from women. A lot of women lied to me and not admits they don't feel good.

Maybe some women are angry because their doctors did not inform them of the side effects or even that they were going to castrate them. We were told everything would stay the same including sex. They remove your sex organs so how can sex be the same. If they remove your husband's testicles, would sex be the same? You need to discuss this with your husband because when they remove your sex organs (uterus, ovaries and cervix) his life will also be affected.

This is a site to inform women, then after reading over the 400 pages you will have to decide which route is best for you.

All I can say is my life was wonderful before I went to see my doctor for hot flashes. He then started to find this and that wrong with me. I put complete trust in him which is wrong and I didn't know enough about my body to make a wise decision.

Any doctor that only mentions a hysterectomy or castration is the wrong doctor for you. Please call the Hers Foundation and they will help you with your problems and find you a doctor in your area.

We do want the best for you which is why we are telling our stories. There isn't one of us who wouldn't trade in this life for our other life that we had before we were hysterectomized and castrated.

 
At March 11, 2008 at 4:02 PM , Blogger Jane Marie said...

To Anonymous above, March 11th:

I do feel for your pain. In addition, yes it is very scary. You are the only one that can make that decision. Those few women you talked to well, they are the lucky ones who walked away with no side effects. For me in the state of Wisconsin there was no counseling available. I am a victim of an unnecessary hysterectomy and let me tell you something I do call it a SLAUGHTER of my female being for my life has never been the same.

I am sorry to sound rude here but these woman on here saying this site is a cult etc..Well, let me tell you get down on your knees and thank God that you are not suffering from the adverse effects that the rest of us are! This is not a joke. And it is not in any of our heads. I have been to numerous therapists and no one has any idea the hell I have gone through the last three years of my life mentally and physically.

Also, I would like to mention. I have a girlfriend who had the same problems as you. Also lives in the state of Wisconsin. She had the same pain, diagnosis all of it. She had a full hysterectomy her life has never been the same. She dreads waking up every single day of her life. And said she would have rather have went to another state for an opinion and take the pain back then to live the hell she is living in now!

Yes, we are angry. At least I know I am. But that anger is going to make changes for woman out there one day thanks to Norah Coffey and the Hers Foundation. Think what you want….but I thank God I found her for I tried to kill myself for I thought I was going crazy. And I stand behind her and this foundation 110%. I will be damned if I let my daughter or her daughter be a victim!!!

This site is fact based. Did you take the time to read all the information on the web site?
Norah Coffey has devoted her life and many countless hours to bring these facts to woman. Do you think that was done overnight? I have confidence in her and the foundation. The people involved are very caring. I should know as I am sure many others do….I have had to call them and they called me back because I was at my wits end. This site is to help woman not bash doctors. I am sorry but yes, some of us are very unhappy with being misinformed. Some of us do feel we have the right to bash the doctors who mislead us.

So go ahead it is your decision. I do wish you the very best and pray to God you and your family doesn’t suffer like the rest of us have.

Sit back watch changes happen slowly…it will one day!!!

 
At March 11, 2008 at 4:30 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the original poster to your reply. First, thank you both for taking time out of your day to respond. I am at wits end, my pain is so bad everyday 24 hours a day. I don't want a hysterectomy, I have been fighting it for 2 years. I've ablation, I've had lesions removed, and regrettably one cyst due to suspect cancer, it was not. I wish there was another alternative to surgery, I've read about diet changes, natural soy for hormones replacement.. I would try it all. The reason why I'm so angry is that I can't seem to get a good feeling about it, but I'm being told it's my only option. I just can't believe that. I still have it scheduled, since I've seen this site... I am going back to talk to my GYN next Tuesday for another ultra sound. I would like to try anything to get my life back, what else would stop this pain, shrink my uterus so it's not laying on my bladder. I've prayed and I don't know what else to do. And no... I didn't read the website fully... I came across this blog only...and honestly it did scare me. Thanks for your honesty... I'm in NC.

 
At March 11, 2008 at 6:16 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response to the two above posts, I would like to add that the reason for the outrage expressed by most of the women who have posted to this site, is because THEY WERE NOT TOLD by their physicians BEFORE or AFTER the surgery, the truth about what they should expect, post surgery.

Our post-surgery experiences have outraged us, simply because the experience is so different to what we were told to expect. We are, understandably, outraged by this.

I agree with Gracie, I personally would choose my life before this surgery, with the one ovarian cyst I had at the time of my surgery. I say this because I know a lot more NOW about the cause of my cyst and how best it could have been dealt with. I also trusted my physician then, something I will never again do in my lifetime, due to my personal experience with my physician. I was lied to at the time of my surgery, by my then Gynecologist/Surgeon.

My physician used the 'possible cancer' scare tactic and pushed me into believing that 'time was of the essence' and that I needed IMMEDIATE surgery, which I was scared and encouraged by my physician to have about 3 days after my first consultation with him.

Having lived the past 35 years, post surgery, and having learnt a lot more about my body and my body's ability to heal itself, I would encourage anyone considering this surgery, to seek alternatives, and to RUN not WALK away from any physicians rushing you into surgery.

I base my opinions on my own experience and my observations and studies on this subject.

I was only 24 years old when I had this surgery and have had 35 years to carefully consider all the pros and cons.

Only today on one of the TV morning shows, Nicholas Gonzalez appeared with two people who said they are doing well now, and have lived the past 7 years after having used natural healing modalities including Traditional Chinese Medicine etc. The lady and the gentleman guests on the show had sought natural healing treatments, including Traditional Chinese Medicine, under the care of Nicholas Gonzalez. The lady said she had been diagnosed 7 years ago with Pancreatic Cancer and was told by her physician upon diagnosis that she could only expect to live maximum of 3 months should she choose to forego his recommended chemotherapy treatments etc. She says she chose to consult with Nicholas Gonzalez instead. The gentleman on the show told of an almost similar experience, however, he opted to have some of the conventional treatments recommended by his physician as well as have the TCM help from Nicholas Gonzalez.

These outcomes are far from unusual or rare. They are just hidden from view by the media which depend on the drug companies for financial support etc. Logically, the US 'medical industry' can not thrive when their patients get well. Also, the huge Drug companies are obligated to their shareholders to make a profit, which they can not do if as many of us as possible do not use their drugs.

These truths are self evident!

 
At March 11, 2008 at 6:44 PM , Blogger HERS Foundation said...

Sabina,

Have you had a pelvic and transvaginal ultrasound performed? If so, it may provide some insight about the cause of your prolonged bleeding. A submucosal fibroid, one that's located in the inside, endometrial layer of the uterus, can cause very heavy menstrual bleeding but it won't cause prolonged bleeding. Has the thickness of the endometrial lining of your uterus been measured in an ultrasound?

These issues are too complex to discuss via a blog. If you would like to discuss this further please contact HERS by email at hersfdn@earthlink.net.

Nora

Nora W. Coffey, President
HERS Foundation

 
At March 11, 2008 at 7:03 PM , Blogger HERS Foundation said...

Anonymous who has a hysterectomy scheduled,

You're right, some (2%) hysterectomies are life saving. The 98% that are not life saving often are done for reasons of minimal pain or discomfort, heavy or irregular menstrual bleeding, or because a doctor recommended it to prevent the possibility of developing cancer in the female organs.

Your situation is unique to you, and a public forum such as a blog is not the best way to discuss the complexity of the studies and surgeries that have been performed, the results of each of them, and the options in treatment. I would like the opportunity to discuss your situation with you in detail. If you are interested please contact Irene at HERS at 610-667-7757 and she will arrange time for us to talk by phone.

If you have radiology or pathology reports it would be helpful if you would fax them to me at 610-667-8096 prior to our telephone appointment. If you don't have a copies of your reports you can ask the receptionist in your doctors office to fax or send them to you.

I understand how you feel about women using words like butchering and cut up. They do seem extreme and off-putting, and I encourage people to not to use such descriptions because many people will turn away and not take them seriously. I know that these characterizations come from a place of deep pain and anguish suffered by many women who have had their lives irreparably changed by hysterectomy.

I'm glad that you were alerted by their comments and look further for information. I would be glad to speak with you and provide medical journal articles and referral to a physician if there is a conservative approach to your problems that is reasonable.

Nora

Nora W. Coffey, President
HERS Foundation

 
At March 12, 2008 at 9:18 AM , Blogger The Single Mom said...

I have just cancelled my surgery for the removal of a large ovarian cyst on my right ovary for a few reasons: The two male doctors could not decide who was going to do the surgery. They both told me they saw no cancer present in the Cat scans or ultrasounds or blood tests yet the cancer doctor wanted me to be castrated because of my age, 48, and I am a bit overweight, saying I was at risk. The obgyn male doctor was supposed to do the surgery but was not sure if he wanted to, saying he preferred the cancer doctor to because he was his "go to guy" whatever that meant. The cancer doc had me sign a consent for to remove my ovary (but not sure which one) and my tube. Then he put if there was a risk for cancer he had my permission to take out all the rest (ovaries,uterus etc). I signed it reluctantly because I felt pressured. He then told me he would not be performing the surgery but the other doc would. So why was I signing a consent for with him? Who knows. I then got a call from his secretarty who said I had to sign another consent form saying they could do a tubal ligation. I said "what?, I thought you were only taking out the cyst?" She had no answers. I said no. I would have to speak with my original family practioner (female doc) who referred me to the obgyn (male) doc in the first place because now I am totally confused! I went online and foud this website first. I read everything and cancelled the surger entirely. I have had not symptoms, pain or anything with this cyst so far and feel I have some time to make an informed decision before signing any more consent forms. Does anyone know of a reputable obgyn in NH that can help me just get the darn cyst removed without castrating me!???? Please reply ASAP.

 
At March 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Single Mom: It's great that you canceled your surgery with those "doctors". You're right, none of it makes sense and it appears that they are setting you up for a hysterectomy with the "cancer" scare. Please call the HERS Foundation at 610-667-7757 for assistance. You may not need anything done, or at worst, just the cyst removed. Good luck and let us know how you are doing!

 
At March 13, 2008 at 6:01 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

You really need to report the cancer doctor to the medical board. What does your age have to do with anything? Like at 48 you don't need your sex organs. I wonder what his age is. You should find out and say gosh lets castrate you because you are 48. I hope you do because he needs to hear it from you. Good luck. We know you will find some caring doctor who will just remove the cyst. My niece had to go to different doctors to find one in iowa City, Iowa to just remove the cyst. I thank God everyday her Mom and I were with her to guide her.

 
At March 13, 2008 at 7:34 AM , Blogger The Single Mom said...

I know! The cancer doctor is way over 48! I did feel like saying that to him, believe me. You should have seen my face when he said "what do you need your uterus for anyway?"! I keep getting calls from the male obgyn doc who wasn't willing to just take out the cyst. I don't answer his calls. On his messages he keeps saying "If you have any questions, please call me". I think he had his moment to answer my questions already during our consult. This doctor did a rectal on me without even telling me he was going to do it! Do you think I would trust him to cut me open and take out a cyst at this point? Who knows what else he would do in there without telling me. I just may report these guys to the board as you suggest. I wonder how many more women have been subjected to their attitutes. God help us all.

 
At March 14, 2008 at 7:57 AM , Blogger Gracie said...

Hers need our support now more than ever to get this law passed. Please, everyone who has written on here send whatever you can afford to them NOW. Hers has helped all of us and will continue to do so. But they really need our help.

IT IS TIME WE HELP THEM NOW. SEND YOUR DONATION TODAY.

 
At March 17, 2008 at 12:42 AM , Blogger TQ said...

While I support HERS in its efforts and will continue for as long as I can - I wonder why this isn't a more urgent issue with women. Clearly, it is more difficult to fight for one's rights, protect children and bring greater justice to society as a whole after being damaged by the surgical procedure hysterectomy.

Maybe with all the discussion, we miss the point that doctors cannot use fraudulent practices, misinform, or otherwise lie about medical diagnosis and treatments. Maybe we miss that this is happening to 600,000 women annually - I may not know what fraction of the total female population this is, but I know it's more than just me. Maybe we actually believe the weak arguments or explanations that doctors inundate women and the media with - "we've just since (some year) had alternatives to hysterectomy", "women just need to know their alternatives", "if a woman has a problem - she was depressed before the surgery", and "what does a woman need a uterus, ovaries, or breast for at 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, etc.??".

Or maybe we need to know the many ways a person can be killed without leaving a mark on the body. If one can do that, then one can also be disabled without outwardly visible signs. Although, as some of us realize, there are signs.

I remember during the first year after surgery, when it dawned on me that I was in serious trouble. And after getting nowhere with the doctor who actually performed the surgery, I thought I would just find a better doctor to help me. I heard an OB/GYN speak who was now no longer delivering babies and offered assistance with hormones and anti-anging. I remember crying in her office after our consult from relief that I had found help. I remember thinking I was on my way after she gave me a Myer's push (vitamin injection) and I actually had energy and my brain started to work. I remember the frustration at seeing the injections fail to give the same results as the initial shot, as a matter of fact, all her treatments failed to restore me to my former self, and then running out of money set aside for out-of-network medical care, and wondering what to do next.

I remember picking myself up and increasing my out-of-network medical costs funding and continuing to research possible doctors to visit. For these efforts I was rewarded with either immediate dismissal or we can turn this around in 3 months (I started to hate those words).

Each year the anniversary of the hysterectomy came around - I couldn't believe I'd lost another year of my life and I hadn't found an answer. I thought, could it be possible that more years would go by 5, 10, 15, 20..

Well I just started my 11th year and I've spent the last four years hanging on to the last shreds of my life - a job. I've sacrificed everything else that was my life to attempt to remain employed.

I toyed with telling my employer that my mother had cancer - wouldn't everyone understand that....but I decided against it.

And I guess that is why I support HERS, this surgery has changed so much of me and my life - the love and support of my family (well maybe I never had that), my career, my education, my dreams of the future, it has given me fear, sadness, and a nightmarish life of such proportions that I could have never imagined, and so with that I refuse to also let it make me a coward.....

I appreciate HERS for allowing me to lend my voice and strength to this cause.

 
At March 17, 2008 at 9:55 PM , Blogger Gracie said...

Dear TQ, Every women that has written on this blog knows exactly what you are going through which makes us sad that you also have to live the rest of your life with problems caused by your hysterectomy. I hope your family and friends support you because that is so important.

If you want someone to talk to please email Hers and they will give you my email address.

Your life will never be what it was before your surgery, but you can help other women by getting a law passed that would require doctors to give every woman the DVD 'female anatomy' who are prescribed a hysterectomy and
castration. Have your family and friend watch the DVD and then sign the petition.

You are a very brave and courageous woman to tell us your story. We thank you for that.

Would you tell us who your doctor and clinic is so we can protect women in your area? As I have said before we need to know who these doctors are that are castrating women who have no problems. Fibroids which can be removed by having a myomectomy amd polyps and cysts are removed by a polypectomy. You never have to have a hysterectomy and castration for fibroids, polyps and cysts. If your doctor recommends surgery, you have the wrong doctor and you need to get ahold of Hers to find a doctor in your area who does alternative surgeries.

 
At March 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear TQ,

Your story sounds so similar to mine. One difference is that mine was 35 years ago, done to me at age 24 and childless.

The best thing we can do is to help other women avoid this surgery at all costs. Looking for 'cures' post surgery, can not possibly give us back the life we had.

It is so difficult to explain to doctors, family members, or to anyone, that the loss of the female sex organs, is not just a sexual issue.

It is waaaaay more than that.

It takes away our lives, except that we still keep waking up each day and do not begin to know how we will ever get through the rest of the day, because our bodies are barely alive in every respect.

One way I can think of describing the constant discomfort I feel every day, is to ask someone to imagine what it feels like to have just finished running a 26 mile marathon in 90 degree Fareinheit weather on a very humid day. Then imagine knowing that your energy level after completing this race will never ever return to its 'normal' or anywhere near 'normal' level the next day or even the next week or the next year. It will never return for as long as you live.

You live in a constant state of chronic fatigue mentally, physically, emotionally and in every way. You end up bankrupt in every respect and all because you were not told the truth by your doctor. If you had, you would have decided, more likely than not, to seek alternative treatment, and not have the surgery done to you.

It matters not whether you are poor or rich financially when you have this surgery done to you.

We all end up in the same place for the obvious reasons. We were not told the truth and we find our experience post surgery is not what we were told to expect.

 
At March 18, 2008 at 7:24 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

WELL SAID! Wow, your words are gold and all so true. That is exactly what we all want to say, but you said it well. Thank you for describing the life we have after being hysterectomized and or castrated. SO SAD, BUT TRUE! If doctors are reading this and still doing castration, they need to be diciplined and prosecuted to the fullest just like any other criminal.

 
At March 18, 2008 at 1:22 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Add the following considerations to the above marathon-runner description of the female sex-organ-surgery victim:

1)
The very doctors who did the surgery or the other doctors you consult with after having this surgery (for your post-surgery trauma), keep denying the surgery has anything to do with your sudden onset of post-surgery 'symptoms'
2)
Your family, usually a husband or significant other, believes your doctor and not you, because your doctor has a paper 'degree' in medicine and/or surgery and chances are you do not.
3)
You are now handicapped on many levels, but there is no visible handicap. The removal of your vital organs was an internal, hidden event. No one, (family, friends, co-workers, neighbors etc.) can understand why you are not coping NOW with things you used to cope with before your surgery, and you yourself do not understand what is happening to you as you have not yet found this HERS Foundation website and been truthfully informed of the facts concerning the after-effects of this surgery.


ASK YOURSELF
Is there any wonder why there are so many divorces after this surgery has been performed on married women?

Is there any wonder why women commit suicide in these circumstances?

Is there any wonder why so many women wish they were now dead rather than being alive in these circumstances?

You do not get the usual privileges of Handicap parking spaces and other public considerations.

You do not get the government financial and other support that accepted 'handicap' victims do.

You are ridiculed and despised by some people, because you have become inadequate, useless on so many levels, and yet, you are struggling to stay alive and to function the best way you know how. You are trying your very best.

What do you think it is that keeps us female-sex-organ-surgery victims going?

For me, it is finding this HERS Foundation organization and this blog.

This blog gives me a voice and the opportunity to reach out to males and females. I want to encourage everyone to beware of this imminent, hidden danger. It is a closely guarded and protected secret in the medical fraternity, carefully protected and nurtured by the gynecologists and doctors in our midst. It is one of their most closely guarded, money-making secrets and you are not likely to find help from any of them, pre or post surgery.

There are alternatives and I have found them. Too late for me and hopefully not too late for some of you contemplating this surgery.

 
At March 20, 2008 at 8:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was told yesterday by my Gyn that she wanted to do a complete hysterectomy. My original problem was an ovarian cyst that became calcified and lost function. So that was the only bit being removed. We knew I had uterine fibroids, they showed up on the same ultrasounds as the ovarian problems (only on the left). Then she calls in the evening to tell me that the laproscopy scheduled would have to be scrapped and that she would have to remove the ovary through an incision on my bikini line. And that she would like to give me a complete hysterectomy in the process in order to relieve the pain of fibroids I deal with every month.

My health, both emotionally and physically, is already bad enough. After praying for an answer I woke up much too early and went in search of answers. Now I'm keeping my uterus. The fibroids were never a serious health concern or I'm sure the Gyn would have brought up a hysterectomy long before this. Being so offhanded about it makes me question her sincerity and ability in her chosen field now that I've read and seen information I never got from her office.

Thanks. You answered my prayers in abundance. Now I know what to do.

 
At March 20, 2008 at 8:38 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm the above poster. I should probably tell everyone what I am going to do. *laughs* I /do/ need the one ovary removed, there is no doubt as I've had three opinions. The other ovary and my uterus are staying and I am getting another opinion on the fibroids. Maybe two or three. Thanks again.

 
At March 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi everyone,
After posting my recent comments on my cyst removal (or should I say delayed cyst removal) I have two appointments with two different practices in NH, both in April. I told both, when making my appointments, what I would like to have done (only a cystectomy) and my wishes to keep my ovaries and my uterus/cervix). Both practices assure me they only do what the patient wants and are open to my concerns. We shall see. No woman wants to be castrated, I for one. The male doctors wrote to me after finally cancelling the surgery in Concord(after I sent them a notice to follow my instructions which I was told was done the previous week but was not by orders of these arrogant male doctors). He stated back to my written request, that he was not 'trying to force me into a having surgery (I assume the hysterectomy)' and he did not originally cancel my surgery in hopes of being able to answer any questions. Now that he has my written request he would cancel the surgery immediately. Why didn't he do this in the first place? I feel he is just trying to covery his butt at this point and no longer want to discuss this matter with him or the other oncologist who felt (even though he did not see alarm for cancer in this cyst) I should have my uterus taken out because I no longer had a need for it because I was 48. I've been happier since I have taken matters into my own hands and will give myself ample time to get second, third, fourth opinions, whatever it takes to find a doctor who believes in preserving a womans reproductive organs. ONLY THEN WILL I BE WILLING TO HAVE THIS CYST REMOVED! All women who are reading this please heed my warnings and take responsibility to take care of yourself. Research completely every piece of knowledge about your condition before letting some person (yes, doctors are people too) take what is rightfully yours and believe your organs are alive and a vital part of all of your remaining years of life here. Do this for you and your children. You are worth it!

 
At March 20, 2008 at 9:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you anonymous for sharing your experience and what you have learned BEFORE it is too late! You are a very smart woman to take charge of your health, research all your options, and not be afraid to question these doctors opinions and decisions. You have just saved yourself years of turmoil! All women need to stand up for themselves and fight for their bodies and their rights! If more women like you stood up to doctors and questioned their motives and their tactics, there would be far fewer hysterectomies being pushed on women and more time and effort would be put into more conservative and just as effective treatments.
I wish you the best in finding a doctor to remove just the cyst and preserve your healthy organs. You can always contact the HERS foundation and they may be able to put you in touch with a trustworthy doctor who will not hysterectomize and/or castrate you without your consent. Good luck with everything and keep us updated on your progress! Thanks again for sharing! Your story makes our efforts worthwhile!
Elaine

 
At March 21, 2008 at 1:27 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous, I'm so glad you've posted your experiences. It gives everyone great insight to all the deception perpetrated by these "doctors" so they can perform hysterectomy for profit. I unfortunately went into the emergency room in severe pain with ovarian torsion and didn't have time to research my condition. Even though I was totally against hysterectomy, and told the doctor to save all my organs and do only what was absolutely necessary, he took it upon himself to amputate both ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus and cervix and he falsified my consent form. There is just nothing these doctors won't do to get a woman under anesthesia so they can take everything out. Informed consent laws are not enforced so they have free reign to do whatever they want without repercussions. It is very scary to be a woman living in the United States. Be very careful with the consent form. Make sure it states exactly what procedure is to be done and make sure it says "DO NOT PERFORM A HYSTERECTOMY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES". It might even be a good idea to have an attorney go over the consent form. You cannot be too careful! Good luck and keep us posted. Please keep posting your experiences, because you will help others not fall into the same trap.

 
At March 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

To Anonymous who's planning to have cystectomy....I totally agree with you regarding taking control of your health and body. I just had a myomectomy and would have had a hysterectomy if it weren't for HERS. I thought I had done all my research and read the pamphlets given to me by my doctor and online websites. But somehow, I stumbled upon HERS just days before my surgery. Needless to say, I canceled the hysterectomy. Lucky for me my doctor did not question why I had changed my mind or said that she wouldn't do the myomectomy. But it was the best decision I ever made for my body.

It is important that women educate themselves about the female anatomy. We cannot depend on our doctors to sit down with us and educate us on this topic. I mean how much can they actually teach us in a 10-15 minute consult?

We need to really take control and take responsibility and not trust everything that the doctors tell us. It is sad and unfortunate that it has come down to money for a lot of these doctors.

My eyes have been opened and my mind educated. Please, everyone, do extensive research, inform yourself, educate yourself!

 
At March 23, 2008 at 11:59 AM , Blogger The Single Mom said...

Thanks for responding to my post. You were a very smart woman yourself. I'm glad you found the hersfoundation in time too! God leads us to what we need when we listen to His call. I'm also glad your myectomy went well and your doctor agreed to perform this operation instead. I can't even get my General Practitioner to schedule a mamogram for me now, instead she is ignoring my reqeust for help in setting one up. I believe the doctors at this hospital are covering for each other in this matter. It's really sad to see what our healthcare system has become, all about money! Keep educating yourself and spread this bit of wisdom to anyone you can...we all need each other to help us make the right decisions. God bless all of you who are do so...the singlemom.

 
At March 23, 2008 at 11:36 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have two large fibroids (8 and 10 cm), and my doctor thinks they may have contributed to a recent miscarriage.

He has recommended a myomectomy, but I was wondering what other options I may have. I'm concerned that scarring may impact my ability to get pregnant, and I'd like to avoid major surgery if possible.

 
At March 23, 2008 at 11:43 PM , Blogger HERS Foundation said...

Usually the only fibroids that interfere with conception and pregnancy are submucosal, which means it is located in the inside, endometrial layer of the uterus. If it is 4cm or smaller a submucosal fibroid can be shelled out with a hystereoscope. The surgery is performed vaginally, with the scope being inserted into the vagina, into the cervix, then into the uterus. The surgeon chips away at the fibroid until nothing remains but the shell. The uterus is not cut into.

If it is larger than 4cm you would need a horizontal incision above the pubic bone, and the uterus would have to be cut into (myomectomy) to remove the fibroid. If you conisder undergoing a hysteroscopic shelling out of a fibroid or a myomectomy you might want to contact HERS at 610.667.7757 to discuss questions that you should ask the surgeon and, equally important, how to modify the surgical consent form so that the doctor does not have permission to remove your uterus, cervix, or ovaries.

 
At March 25, 2008 at 2:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love your blog it saved my uterus!

 
At March 27, 2008 at 2:10 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

tasigurl, thanks for posting! I'm glad you still have your uterus! For every woman saved, it's less money in the criminal gynecologist's pockets, and you can live a healthy life with all your body parts! My life was so much easier when I had my uterus. Since this was done to me a year and a half ago, I've had a lot of joint pain and hip pain that I never had before. It scares me with every new pain I get. I am only 45, but I feel like I am 80 years old with my bones creaking and painful. At times every joint in my body hurts. It's horrible what these so-called doctors are doing to women. I see Gundersen is still promoting their lies for profit. If it was not for the HERS Foundation, no one would be sharing this information or showing the advertising deceit on these hospital websites. So thank you HERS for bringing out the truth and helping women so they do not fall victim to the same fate. FYI to all posters, make sure you fill in the "word verification" or your message will not be posted.

 
At April 1, 2008 at 7:20 AM , Blogger Gracie said...

It looks like Gundersen Clinic does not want to remove their false and midleading information regarding Hysterectomy and Castration from their web site. Everyday I see their TV commercial 'your good health is our biggest concern.' They are making the big $$$ from this surgery, so why would they ever want you to know the truth.

NOW, you know what I was up against when I entered Gundersen Clinic and saw Dr. Jerome Gundersen. I didn't have a chance of coming out of there with my sexual hormone producing organs. Neither does any other women who enters their doors. They are so powerful that you don't have a chance to come out with your ovaries, uterus or cervix intact.

I would like some women in the LaCrosse, Wisconsin area to tell me if they still have their organs after entering Gundersen Clinic. There can't be a lot of women in this town that still have their sex organs. Taking organs out for no reason is a criminal act, but yet they are getting by with it.

Try to sue your doctor and clinic. They have the law on their side. Everyone believes the doctor, the person of authority, the person who is suppose to have your well-being in their best interest, who you trust and who is suppose to watch over you and give you the best possible treatment.

When all said and done, their only concern is the almighty dollar. They leave you with a life time of problems that will never get better. What is even worse, is after the surgery, the doctor pushes you out their door to find your own answers as to why you are feeling so terrible.

I again challenge you to name your doctor and clinic so women don't go to them. The doctor castrated you for a simple fibroid, cyst or polyp. All of which could have been removed by alternative surgery. Sometimes you really don't have to do anything if you have no problems. If you go to an OB/GYN for your checkups, you will most likely end up with a hysterectomy and castration. This is what they are trained to do. They will find something wrong with you, but they make you believe you are dying or end up with cancer if not removed.

It makes me wonder what Gundersen's web site would be like if men were being castrated to the numbers women are being castrated. Would they have false information about male castration? Would they say male castration does not change their sexual life and well-being? Would men have to answer the questions their way or no way? Would they give men information that it will be even better than before.

My life will never be the same as before my surgery and neither will any women that has written on this blog, but we can all help in some way to get a law passed that would require doctors to give every women the DVD 'female anatomy' who are prescribed a Hysterectomy and Castration. Let the woman decide, not her doctor. By the way, who gives the doctor the right to just clean house taking from us our ovaries, uterus and cervix. TALK ABOUT BARBARIC!

Keep writing ladies until Gundersen Clinic removes their lies about Hysterectomy and Castration from their web site. I would think they would want to help women, but as you can see, they want to continue telling women lies and mis-leading information about this surgery. That should tell you about their concern for women's health.

Thank the Hers Foundation by mailing in your donation today! They need our help now more than ever by getting a law passed.

 
At April 2, 2008 at 7:46 PM , Blogger HERS Foundation said...

Please click on "newest" below to view the most recent comments.

 
At April 2, 2008 at 7:49 PM , Blogger HERS Foundation said...

Please read the new Post and add your comments at:

http://hysterectomyinformation.blogspot.com/

 
At May 28, 2008 at 12:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

At the age of 19 I had my uterus removed due to endometrois and am now having alot of medical problems and according to your site they may all be related and I was never told 90% of the side effects that I found on your site and now I'm scared. I’m 22. What can I do to feel like “me” again? Please help me.

 
At June 18, 2008 at 7:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had fibroid tumors that were bleeding and a cyst on my ovary, I had a hysterectomy in 1998, I finally got to where I could hardly walk due to the severe pain I was doubling over in pain. Yes I'm glad, its much better not to have that severe pain. My mom had one for fibroids and so did her sister, and just about everyone has had one in my family, for the same thing. Most everyone else, has already had kids, I didn't have any, but that's ok too. I have 2 puppies and they are my kids.

 
At July 11, 2008 at 2:02 PM , Blogger PattyK said...

I had a D&C and a tubal in Dec. 1996 after delivering my daughter in October 1996 at the age of 28. At that time the doctor had poked a hole in the still boggy uterus. He said it was fine, he stitched it up, but after that I had experienced sometimes severe pain with menstruation and unexplained weight gain after a steady loss after my daughter (no change in diet or exercise.)

I went to a new doctor when I was 32. He performed a laparascopy and stated that he "believed" that I had adenomyosis (endometriosis in the muscle of the uterus) and recommended a hysterectomy. He said since I wanted no more children, then it wouldn't make a difference. When I questioned what other treatments would be available, he said none and that there would be no reason to keep it. I asked about the sexual side effects and he said I would be better than before because of no pain. I was still hesitant since I knew that I experienced uterine contractions at orgasm, no uterus, no orgasm was my fear. After more questions, he even said that there is no definitive diagnosis until after a biopsy. So, there is a chance that this isn't what I have wrong and I couldn't change my mind after the surgery. After each yearly checkup he would state the same thing, basically saying I was stupid for not taking the surgery.

I stopped going to him, and have been searching for a doctor that has the philosphy that a hysterectomy should be a last resort. Does anyone know of a great doctor like this in the Philadelphia/Trenton area? I thought a woman doctor would be more likely to lean against hysterectomy, but then again, some of the blogs here, don't support that idea as some women doctors have pushed for hysterectomy also.

I am glad to see that my fears are not as unfounded as the doctor was saying they are. Good Luck to all you that are still in pain due to your unfounded surgeries.

 
At July 11, 2008 at 4:00 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

PATTY,
I learned that when you begin to speak with women around you they begin to tell you about their doctors. Since I decided to drop my doctor who was going to do a hysterectomy on me for a mere cyst (nothing wrong with my uterus whatsoever) I learned of two other gynocologist that are both women who are very good and do not take out your healthy organs at will. I chose to do nothing about my cyst as of yet because of financial reasons and the mere fact that it doesn't bother me whatsoever. Good luck in your search, I'll pray that God sends you to the right people, smart thinking about second guessing your current doc and do not give up! You will find the right doctor to help you. Susan Clement

 
At July 11, 2008 at 4:01 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

PATTY,
I learned that when you begin to speak with women around you they begin to tell you about their doctors. Since I decided to drop my doctor who was going to do a hysterectomy on me for a mere cyst (nothing wrong with my uterus whatsoever) I learned of two other gynocologist that are both women who are very good and do not take out your healthy organs at will. I chose to do nothing about my cyst as of yet because of financial reasons and the mere fact that it doesn't bother me whatsoever. Good luck in your search, I'll pray that God sends you to the right people, smart thinking about second guessing your current doc and do not give up! You will find the right doctor to help you. Susan Clement

 
At July 19, 2008 at 6:45 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to thank all these women for sharing their experiences w/ me as I am a 43yrs old and was told that I need to remove my utrine because of the pain I am in and that I have adenomyosis. I do not know how to deal with this pain. Reading all of your testomonies has made me think twice about the sugery and I probably will not have it.

 
At August 13, 2008 at 11:34 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went to the dr for a consult about endometrial ablation. Because of a uterine anomoly, she told me that hysterectomy was my only option. Forget that the "c" word was thrown out there a couple of times just for good measure. I am convinced that because I have a rich DR husband with excellent insurance, that I was given a hysterectomy. I wish I was dead. My life is in ruins and all she can say is "hindsight is 20/20". I don't understand how a dr can shit all over a patient then go home and sleep like a baby. It has been 8 months since my surgery and I would give anything to change it. I am a recluse now becasue I can't stand to be around people who know about my surgery. I am not a woman anymore. I am an IT. OB/GYNs should rot in hell.

 
At October 13, 2008 at 8:54 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I am not thrilled to consider a partial hysterectomy and bladder sling but I am feeling like there aren't many moe options. After two large vaginal deliveries I have bladder incontinence (for five years) and Phase II uterine prolapse. It was at a Phase I after the second delivery and now has progressed. I am concerned that it will finally reach Phase III. My uterus is laying on my bladder causing the incontinence along with constipation issues, cramping and nausea. I am aware of a uterine mesh along with a sling but understand that this will only last for 1-5 years and can cause infection or erode. Do I really want to go back into surgery again for a repair? I also am concerned about early menopause..I'm 39years old. I am so confused I can't see straight. I do feel like now is the time to take care of this before it worsens into rectocele or cystocele issues. Please give guidance.

 
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At July 17, 2010 at 9:50 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does a 71 year old woman do for stage 3 prolapsed uterus? Is partial colpoclesisis the best option. Have done nothing yet.
Is the TVT sling necessary at the same time. I agree with everything you are saying from the research I have done. But, what alternatives are you giving us?

 
At July 17, 2010 at 3:26 PM , Blogger HERS Foundation said...

Have you tried a pessary, a device that you or a doctor inserts into your vagina, much like a diaphragm, that supports the uterus, bladder and bowel. For more information contact HERS at hersfdn@earthlink.net or fill out the contact form on HERS website at www.hersfoundation.org.

 
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At September 16, 2014 at 10:18 PM , Anonymous B runion said...

Back in 2010 of January I went in to have a histerectomy soon after I started healing my feet started swelling and bad leg pains finally I had to go see a doctor about it even my feet hurt every day and he put me on meds to control the swelling in my feet and something to ease the pain. Ever since the sergury I lost the Earge for intercourse I didn't want it and nothing I tried helped so needless to say it had gotten so bad because I was no longer interested in romance took it's toll on our marriage we are know getting a divorce over it because he wanted sex and I didn't so I think someone needs to look into this and see if I and anyone else with the same systems would have a case over this and could we win please email me at happysquirrl2@yahoo.com and let me know I also got preg back in 1993 and miscarried they froze my uterus ,and did some clipping down there and because of that I couldn't conceive another child is there a law suit going on for that cause soon after is when I had endometriosis I just need some information on what can be done thank you B RUNION from beckley wv

 
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