Comments on Hysterectomy - the Experts Speak Out: Fraud and Hysterectomy

Nora- I believe a class action suit should be brou...

2009-10-11T20:37:22.975-04:00

Nora-
I believe a class action suit should be brought against ACOG or the AMA- clearly ACOG statements are stunning- denying on their web site that hysterectomy is all about money- However, I am not an attorney, and am surprised as I thought we had someone studying the issue and looking into bringing a suit.
So you wish that I should try to find an attorney for this class action suit?
molly
If so, I shall try.

Molly, I'm not sure what you mean, "Where are we ...

2009-10-11T14:52:05.946-04:00

Molly,

I'm not sure what you mean, "Where are we with this class action suit?" HERS has not taken any steps toward attempting a class action lawsuit, we only posed the question, in this blog post, "Would you take part in a class action lawsuit against doctors and "patient education" institutions that supplied the erroneous information used to induce you to sign a hysterectomy consent form?"

If your answer is yes, have you considered doing some research to see if there is a lawyer who has brought similar lawsuits? Who would you bring a class action against?

Nora- Where are we with this class action suit? Al...

2009-10-11T14:44:52.311-04:00

Nora-
Where are we with this class action suit? Also, I am wondering why NOW and other women's groups have not joined in in speaking out about this assault on women.
They take up all these smaller issues but not the major abuse of women in this country.
molly

I would like to participate in a class action suit...

2009-09-27T19:31:48.770-04:00

I would like to participate in a class action suit but I'm not sure I meet the criteria. I 37 years old now but at the time of my hysterectomy I was 34. I was in a lot of pain an basically being passed back and forth between my gyn and gastro doctor to solve my problem. Finally my gyn doctor convinced me that I had a pelvic congestion disorder where the veins in my uterus were filling up with blood and this was causing the pain. He desperately seemed to want to end my agony because I was on various pain meds. I had already had an ovary removed when I was 23 years old by another doctor because of a cyst that had grew and twisted and had also caused me pain. He told me that hopefully this would solve all my problems. I agreed because I had been suffering for 6 months, losing time off from work, on pain meds etc... and I thought he knew what he was talking about. Prior to coming to him I had saw another gyn who wanted to perform a hysterectomy also so I thought it was probably the right thing to do. When I changed my primary physician who happens to be a woman why I had a hysterectomy the look on her face spoke volumes. Needless to say the pain returned after a few weeks. He acted stunned and made excuses telling me that he didn't promise me that it would be a solution. He started having other doctors exam me when I came in for pain which I think were students. When I told him it was affecting my sex life with my husband he didn't have a solution except pain management. I solved my own problem by going to an allergist and finding out the pain I was getting was from spasms from a wheat allergy. Now I will never be able to give my husband a son because I listened to what my doctor claimed was the best treatment for a "phantom problem."

I just want to post to tell Nora and Rick that I a...

2009-08-31T16:55:22.538-04:00

I just want to post to tell Nora and Rick that I am so amazed at your dedication. I have been on a crusade to help women since my own unnecessary surgery. I can honestly say that I am beyond frustration. I have talked to, shown the video to, given The H Word to, argued with and used my experience as an example to numerous women. Only one listened and refused the surgery. I just don't get it. Are the women who say it was the best thing they have ever done really telling the truth? I mean why would they lie about such a thing? My ex sister in law not only said the best, she said the best, best, best, best, best thing........

I am thinking perhaps it is is true that people will believe what they WANT to believe, truth be damned. I read an article about internet surfing stating just that. People will search the internet and feel satisfied when they find the info they WANT to hear. To justify their actions. It saddens me.
By the way there was a new study done and it has been found that the appendix is actually a very useful organ contrary to former beliefs. IMAGINE! Use to be appendectomy was one of those right of passage things. Like a hysterectomy is now. Appendectomy and tonsillectomy were big money makers. Their popularity waned and suddenly a study is done showing just how useful the parts are.
But lets keep on yanking out those useless ovaries and uteri!! Maybe, if ever, a hysterectomy becomes a rare surgery, a study will be conducted. A MEDICAL ( seems to be the key word here as we women do not understand our own bodies ) study. Then and only then will people believe. I don't know how many times I have heard,"There is no MEDICAL proof of complications resulting from this surgery."
I am sure there are no MEDICAL complications after removing a mans testicles and penis either.

You are wonderful people. Keep it up.

To the person who would love to find an attorney, ...

2009-08-19T19:56:40.522-04:00

To the person who would love to find an attorney, what state are you in?

Dear, "I would love to find an attorney that reall...

2009-08-19T00:38:15.659-04:00

Dear, "I would love to find an attorney that really cares about women and what they have gone through"
Your story of unnecessary hysterectomy/castration is heart breaking.
I hope you "Name That Doctor and Hospital" on the Hers blog, when you are able to. I hope you would also take part in a "class action" lawsuit on this "Fraud and Hysterectomy" post.
I am so very sorry for your pain and suffering. It is an American atrocity that women are being tortured and physically biologically attacked by gynecologists legally every minute of every day in America.
Your story of unnecessary hysterectomy/castration sounds like a physical "torture", how are you surviving all of these unnecessary gynecological surgeries?

Have you read the definition of...Hysterectomy...o...

2009-08-18T00:22:43.533-04:00

Have you read the definition of...Hysterectomy...on Wikipedia. It is on the first page when you type in hysterectomy now.
Here is an excerpt under...Risks and Side Effects...on Wikipedia.
"Removal of the uterus without removing the ovaries can produce a situation that on rare occasions can result in ectopic pregnancy due to an undetected fertilization that had yet to descend into the uterus before surgery. Two cases have been identified and profiled in an issue of the Blackwell Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology; over 20 other cases have been discussed in additional medical literature.[30]"
Now how unethical does this "worst crime in history" have to get before it is "headline news". I would think to the attorney's considering filing a "class action" lawsuit, this would be a very important fact. Profiled in an issue of the "Blackwell Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology" stating that a woman can still become "pregnant" after hysterectomy. But your unborn child would die without a uterus. What this is saying is that we were not warned that we could still have an "ectopic pregnancy" after hysterectomy. Are there any attorney's out there in the U.S. who think this is "class action" in action.

I would love to find an attorney that really cares...

2009-08-17T01:56:00.585-04:00

I would love to find an attorney that really cares about women and what they have gone through. I had a hysterectomy May of 08. I was told that I had fibroids on the outside of my uterus. I was given the choice the regarding whether to have my ovaries removed or not. I was told that most women that dont have it done, if they dont go into menapause on their own within 5 yrs, that the majority of them return to surgery to have their ovaries removed. I chose to go ahead and have them removed. However, I never dreamed that I would have to under go 4 more surgeries. Three weeks after the original surgery, I started bleeding heavily and they went back in to fix an area that was not closed. Then 3 weeks later I went back in again to have surgery again for the same thing. Then, I continued to hurt and I saw several doctors and I kept telling them I felt something was wrong. I was leaking the peritineum fluid (however you spell it). The doctors went back in again and had to repair a hole in my bowel. After that surgery, I continued to hurt and I thought I would look for other doctors outside of that hospital to see if I could get some help. The doctors that I started seeing looked at the copies of my CT Scans and all my repaorts and we found that gauze was left in inside me during the first surgery. I guess when they went back in during the second surgery, they removed it but never bothered to tell me. In April of this year, I had to go in to have the adhesions removed because they were so bad, and I found out that when the doctor closed me up, she closed me up inside crooked. I love with pain every day of my life. My husband and my children have suffered. Every attorney I talk with tells me that these types of cases take along time in court, sometimes 4, 5 or 6 years and it is not worth their time. I feel that is very very wrong. Doctors need to be held responsible for their actions just like anyone else has to if they do something wrong. I am stuck with thousands of dollars worth of hospital and doctor bills and I lost my job. It looks like I have to have another surgery so that they can try to straighten everything back up, if possible. This is not right that I have had to go through this.

To: "It's the worst mass crime ever committed on e...

2009-08-16T07:52:52.542-04:00

To: "It's the worst mass crime ever committed on earth."
I agree, mass American female unnecessary sex organ amputation by medical deceit for profit (hysterectomy) and mass medically unnecessary female castration (oophorectomy) are "the worst mass crime ever committed on earth".
The mass medically unnecessary de-sexing of the American female by gynecological medical deceit (legalized medical impossibilities) is, however, legal. Which in fact does not make it a recognized "crime" in America.
How, in your opinion, can law enforcement be alerted and informed about this legal atrocity and mass "silent medical crime" in America?

Yes Tatyana, it is a total nightmare, but doctors ...

2009-08-11T22:22:19.634-04:00

Yes Tatyana, it is a total nightmare, but doctors keep doing it to women and lying to them and law enforcement looks the other way. It's the worst mass crime ever committed on earth.

My name is Tatyana Huss.I had a hysterectomy in 20...

2009-08-09T16:53:10.868-04:00

My name is Tatyana Huss.I had a hysterectomy in 2005 and than my life changed for bad.I just can't have intercourse anymore with my husband.It was vagina hysterectomy and as i think was too much cutting.Also i had a pelvic repair.I feel pain when it goes to sex and everything is very tight.I want to cry because of pain during intercourse.So I feel like an invalid in just my 49 years old.I just can't have sex anymore.When i said this to my doctor he said that i have practice.But i practice already few years without results.This is worsest things what woman could have,isn't?

Regarding "law enforcement" looking the other way ...

2009-07-28T20:22:57.772-04:00

Regarding "law enforcement" looking the other way - I don't know of any state's medical board that has disciplined a doctor for conning women into having organs removed.

My complaint with the Missouri Board of "Healing Arts" was a joke. My doctor didn't even follow the oncologist's recommendation to only remove the diseased ovary. The medical board only interviewed the ob/gyn. They did not interview the oncologist and they did not interview me except to ask me some questions over the phone that were already answered in my complaint.

Doctors enable doctors! And in my case, there appeared to be collusion between the ob/gyn and the oncologist. The oncologist was not upfront with me about treatment and there were significant errors in his records including that my sister had ovarian cancer. She did not.

So the Missouri Board of Healing Arts is just as unethical as the scumbag doctors but that makes sense since the board is made up of doctors!

In every other industry, the state's Attorney General is responsible for warning their citizens about scams and prosecuting the perpetrators. I attempted twice to file a complaint against the ob/gyn's practice but was told to file with the medical board.

Law enforcement is looking the other way and the M...

2009-07-22T18:53:34.472-04:00

Law enforcement is looking the other way and the M.D.'s know it. Without enforcement, there is no law. Without law, there is no crime.

Regarding FACEBOOK: you can tell your friend that ...

2009-07-10T10:05:35.290-04:00

Regarding FACEBOOK: you can tell your friend that stumbled onto a facebook site about hysterectomy, because HERS is on facebook too. Just tell her to search "Hysterectomy Information," that's how I found it. I'm surprised more women haven't found it. Or you can tell her stumbled onto the HERS website for that matter, but I hope you find some way to help her.

Say to the woman who is in the planning stage of h...

2009-07-10T00:32:51.544-04:00

Say to the woman who is in the planning stage of having a hysterectomy: Look up the HERS Foundation on the web. Watch the free "Female Anatomy" video on the HERS Foundation web site. A hysterectomy "will" cause you to never experience a uterine orgasm again, medical fact. Read the long list of "after effects" on HERS web site. It is legal for your ob/gyn to omit the medical facts on your hysterectomy consent form.

To Anonymous, Regarding your Facebook friend sche...

2009-07-09T20:44:42.239-04:00

To Anonymous,

Regarding your Facebook friend scheduled for a hyst - I totally understand your shame and embarrassment. I feel the same way but I was able to put that aside in order to try to stop a co-worker from this horror. Sadly, she trusted her doctor and proceeded with the surgery.

Do you have an email address for your friend? You could send an email using an anonymous email address. Or, you could post on Facebook that you know someone (e.g. a coworker) that had the surgery and list the problems she's now having as a result.

Please try to find a way to prevent her from this horror.

How's this for a dilemma?.... I just saw on Faceb...

2009-07-09T10:52:37.506-04:00

How's this for a dilemma?....

I just saw on Facebook that one of my friends from high school is having a total hysterectomy in two weeks. Why? Her doctor told her it might help with her fibromyalgia. I've never heard that one before. The problem? I am too ashamed to tell ANYONE....even a friend....that I have had this surgery and about the implications. I am ashamed that I was duped into having an operation that was totally unwarranted. I feel like I am just sitting by and letting a lamb be led to slaughter, but I totally feel helpless.....I hope someone much braver than I am gets to her before she goes under....

In December, a Louisiana cardiologist was convicte...

2009-07-05T17:57:38.800-04:00

In December, a Louisiana cardiologist was convicted of health care fraud for billing government and private insurers for medically unnecessary heart procedures involving 75 patients. In June he was sentenced to the maximum 10 years. (He was granted bail on July 2 pending his appeal.)

Two Lafayette hospitals settled suits totaling $13.1M with former patients of the cardiologist and the Department of Justice.

The U.S. Attorney said that he hopes "the conviction and subsequent sentence sends a message to those who would put their patients at risk for monetary gain and fraud."

How is this different from all the unnecessary hysterectomies? If anything, it's worse since hysterectomies are damaging.

I filed a complaint against my doctor's practice with my state's Attorney General but of course they just referred me to the useless Medical Board.

Could this case be a precedent for more hysterectomy lawsuits? I sure hope so!!

HI im a member of WAS a group on yahoo(women again...

2009-07-03T20:35:15.902-04:00

HI im a member of WAS a group on yahoo(women against stirrups)and we are all against the same medical procedures and surgeries, ive posted a link to your site on the group im sure the information on here will help a lot of women and help educate and spread the word, i hope some of yous will join and share your information so we can all band together and fight this butchery of women.

I am going to go out on a limb here and not hide b...

2009-06-15T11:20:49.673-04:00

I am going to go out on a limb here and not hide behind anonimity. My name is Holli. And I am offended that one poster angrily referred to us as IDIOTS for letting our doctors perform surgery on us. You, my dear, are missing the point. We DID trust our doctors when they told us things will be better, this is necessary, this is your only option, I will only do it if 100% necessary. Your underestimation of our intelligence is sorely misplaced. I cannot speak for the others, but I am a graduate student, working on 2 masters degrees. I have more common sense than most people. I have no doubt that the other women on this site are equally as intelligent. Again, the point is, we DID trust our doctors, only to find out that we had been misled AFTER it was too late to do anything about it. I am amazed at how many women have posted that their doctors, who convinced them that they were working in their best interest, also brushed them off after surgery when they expressed concern. How DARE a patient complain about anything that a doctor has done? It is that attitude that leads too many of us like lambs to the slaughter.

I am guessing that you are also that angry RN who thinks that her surgery was the best thing ever. Good for you. My grandmother had uterine cancer and hysterectomy was her only option (although the cancer had already spread and she died anyway). But if you will read the statistics, even on websites like Med Help, you will see that over 1/2 of these surgeries are performed for benign conditions.

As someone who studies trauma patients, I am guessing that your anger is not really at those of us who are brave enough (even if under an anonymous name) to speak out against the medical community who performs these surgeries in error, but rather as an attempt to deflect your true feelings about what has been done to you. Maybe not. I DO hope that you are one of the very few who has reaped benefits from the surgery. (as a sex therapist though...don't tell me that your sex life is better...unless you are trying to tell me that you never experienced uterine orgasm or cervical stimulation...then I guess you wouldn't know).

To all of you other ladies, kudos to you for not being afraid to confront your doctor about what has been done to you and to share your experiences with others. I can't say that it helps tons for me, but at least I know that I am not alone. If for no other reason, I know that when my own doctor brushes off my concerns, the problem does not lie within me.

It would be almost as traumatizing to wake up from...

2009-06-15T10:47:11.650-04:00

It would be almost as traumatizing to wake up from a surgery to learn that your leg had been amputated unnecessarily. But unfortunately it would not be as traumatizing as a man having his prostate gland, his testicles and a portion of his penis amputated unnecessarily. How well would a man function physically and sexually after this was done to him?.
A male sex organ amputation and castration are comparatively exactly what "Gynecologists" are legally medically touting to woman as "treatment" for benign female sex/reproductive organ conditions. Not only touting the barbaric gynecological information but saying women will "feel better than ever" after sex organ amputation. Sad isn't it!, this is down right embarrassing for the medical industry at this point. The medical industry doesn't have a medical leg to stand on and sound ridiculous with touting sex organ amputation and castration for benign female organ conditions. Women have "Balls" too, they are called "Ovaries". The legal medical definition of "Oophorectomy" is castration and "Hysterectomy" is female sex organ amputation.

Bibi...Let us know how the "expensive hormone trea...

2009-06-15T10:32:39.406-04:00

Bibi...Let us know how the "expensive hormone treatment" makes you feel physically and sexually! The cream hormones you are trying now are very expensive, I hope it helps you too. I can relate, I saw over a dozen medical doctors and tried over two dozen combinations of pharmaceuticals within two years post hysterectomy in "mind bending" pain, too...and nothing pharmaceutical worked. This is just another insult to a woman after a doctor legally physically attacks her with legally false gynecological information. Isn't the lack of a normal vaginal discharge and sexual desire after hysterectomy just inhumane and gross? Gynecologists sure don't give women this information either. One of the Gynecologists, paid by me and my insurance, POST unnecessary sex organ amputation attack "hysterectomy", said to me quote: "no more vaginal discharge!, well no more bubble bath's for you!".

I had to post this as I just rubbed on a 'compound...

2009-06-15T05:29:20.648-04:00

I had to post this as I just rubbed on a 'compounding lotion' prescribed to me by my PCP. It is a combination of HRT's, and I just started using this. I will see if it does help, and hope so. It got me thinking; however, as I put this on. I had to pay $28.00 to get a two week supply. The insurance I have will not cover it. I would not have asked to try this; if not been for my Hyst., and just begging to try anything for help to make me feel better. My point being: I am now suffering another cost due to my Hyst., and will I have to pay $28.00 every two weeks for the rest of my life? I was not in menopause state before my Hyst., and truly; I could have had another child, if my husband and I decided to. What a money making fraud and so many come out ahead with this; except, the women, men (who are the husbands/significant others), children, and other loved ones, who pay dearly - being it monetarily, physically, and emotionally. Get ready, after a Hyst. to pay, and pay, and pay... How fraudulent is this that GYNs, hospitals, insurance companies do not include this in their 'Informed Consents'?

Isn't it interesting how so many of us share the s...

2009-06-15T00:06:20.514-04:00

Isn't it interesting how so many of us share the same stories? As one example and the last blog here... this woman's doctor said, that she had never had any other patients have any problems. I heard this same thing from my GYN after I complained with severe problems after my Hyst., and how interesting; so many of us, state these same verbal statements from our GYNs. This is the "tip of the iceberg", as one other also posted.

I continue to get this anger built up in me, when I read these posts. How so many others have been deceived, talked into having an unnecessary Hyst., and we are only guilty of having 'FAITH' and 'TRUST' in the doctors who did mutilate us, and physically, emotionally altered our lives. The emotional part is that there is no way of going back and correcting this castration. This is not like a leg break, and correcting a fracture. It would be as a doctor amputating a leg when not necessary, but a doctor cannot put a leg back on a patient. How awful, as so many women posting have said too; they woke up without the knowledge they would have organs removed. How would one feel thinking a doctor was doing a surgery to treat a fracture, and wake up with a leg gone/amputated, and unaware, and found out it was not necessary?
Pretty sick similie, I know, but a patient stands a better chance of sueing for a leg removed than her vital and necessary female organs removed when unnecessary. How sick is this?